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    Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1 [Resolved]

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    • pfrickrollP
      pfrickroll
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      This is a testing firewall no other configuratios besides Failover. WAN 1 Comcast DHCP, WAN 2 (OPT1) Cellular modem DHCP
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      • Raffi_R
        Raffi_
        last edited by Raffi_

        There are many discussions on this. Here is one example with a script to help kill states on the backup wan when the main wan comes back up.
        https://forum.netgate.com/topic/84269/multi-wan-gateway-failover-not-switching-back-to-tier-1-gw-after-back-online/87

        Unless you have some other problem, the failover to WAN2 and switch back WAN1 should be occurring. A problem many have seen, including myself is that the states which were on the backup WAN2 connection remain unless they are manually killed or naturally die over time. This could make it appear like the main WAN1 is not being used, but that's not the case. As mentioned by @noplan the new states should be on the primary WAN1 if it's back up and running.

        Edit: This doesn't really impact my scenario all that much since we typically have very little traffic. So when an event does occur and the primary WAN is back up, I go to Diagnostic => states and filter for my secondary WAN interface IP. Then I kill all those states to make sure no states are remaining on the link I don't want to be used.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          @Raffi_ said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

          states which were on the backup WAN2 connection remain unless they are manually killed or naturally die over time

          Yeah this would be common misconception about not switching back to primary..

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          • pfrickrollP
            pfrickroll
            last edited by pfrickroll

            Why they wouldn't be killed automatically, lets say in 2 mins? I just got busy with something else can't check the states. Yesterday when I checked it wouldn't switch even after about an hour.

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            • Raffi_R
              Raffi_ @pfrickroll
              last edited by Raffi_

              @pfrickroll said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

              Why they wouldn't be killed automatically, lets say in 2 mins? I just got busy with something else can't check the states. Yesterday when I checked it wouldn't switch even after about an hour.

              Because killing states is typically something you don't want to do unless the client/server connection is truly dead. You should be able to setup an automatic method to kill those states with the script mentioned in that thread. I never tried it, but you can read what other are saying about it there.

              Edit: That thread was only one example. If that doesn't solve the issue some searching will show other threads on the topic, possibly with other scripts if I recall.

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @pfrickroll
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                @pfrickroll said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

                Yesterday when I checked it wouldn't switch even after about an hour.

                Did you check that new states where using the wan 1? A State is really not going to die unless traffic stops for a long time, or the session is ended by the server or client with fin or rst, etc.

                So if you were checking via say a browser or something and what your IP was like going to whatsmyip . com or something.. That state would be still using the wan 2, and traffic would continue to route out that connection.

                You would need to make sure you shutdown any existing states using wan 2, or make sure you bring up a new session to validate which wan path you were talking.

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                • pfrickrollP
                  pfrickroll
                  last edited by pfrickroll

                  So, in real setup in small offices where i have pfsense. I got static IP WAN 1 and DHCP WAN 2.
                  I have IPsec, and IP Phones service that we pay for. When WAN 1 comes up, I would like Failover to switch to it lets say in 5 minutes. So that IPsec would up and running as fast as possible. I am not script savvy.

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                    netblues @pfrickroll
                    last edited by

                    @pfrickroll If phones or vpn keep sending keepalives, these connections will only switch to wan1 either by manually killing them, or wan2 goes down.
                    This is a wanted feature. Connections should be not dropped while exchanging data.

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                    • Raffi_R
                      Raffi_ @pfrickroll
                      last edited by Raffi_

                      @pfrickroll said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

                      So, in real setup in small offices where i have pfsense. I got static IP WAN 1 and DHCP WAN 2.
                      I have IPsec, and IP Phones service that we pay for. When WAN 1 comes up, I would like Failover to switch to it lets say in 5 minutes. I am not script savvy.

                      Unfortunately, there is no GUI method to do what you're asking for automatically. I wish there was too. You don't have to be script savvy. Did you even look at the thread? They spell everything out for you. I'm not script savvy at all but I got someone else's script running on pfSense (different script) but it's the same idea. If I can do it, anyone can do it. I believe in you :)

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        Well in the default normal optimization for states.. Once a state is established it will stay open, even without any traffic for 24 hours

                        https://pfsense-docs.readthedocs.io/en/latest/config/advanced-setup.html

                        So unless the server/client involved in the conversation close the session/state with fin, or rst the state will stay open.. You could adjust the timeouts for established, but even in the aggressive mode your still looking at 5 hours.. For an established state without any traffic - and that counter would restart every time there is any traffic on that session.

                        If you want all traffic to switch back to wan 1 after it comes up by forcing it - you would really need to clear the states for anything using wan2

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                        • pfrickrollP
                          pfrickroll @Raffi_
                          last edited by

                          @Raffi_ I skimmed through it but didnt find script there. I am just doing few things at a time at the moment.

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            That link he provided took you right to the post with the script

                            #!/bin/sh
                            
                            # get active gateway and current time
                            CURRENT_TIME="$(date +"%c")"
                            CURRENT_GW="$(netstat -rn | grep default | awk '{print $4}')"
                            
                            if [ $CURRENT_GW = "em2" ]; then
                            	#check if WAN1 is up or not
                            	WAN1_STATUS="$(pfSsh.php playback gatewaystatus brief | grep WANGW | awk '{print $2}')"
                            	if [ $WAN1_STATUS = "none" ]; then
                            		#WAN1 is back online, stop/start WAN2
                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing down WAN2"
                            		ifconfig em2 down
                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Sleeping for 30s"
                            		sleep 30
                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing up WAN2"
                            		ifconfig em2 up
                            	else
                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: WAN1 is still down"
                            	fi
                            else
                            	echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Nothing to do!"
                            fi
                            
                            
                            

                            And just below post was another with the cron info and slightly modified script :) so not sure what link you followed?

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                              serbus
                              last edited by serbus

                              Hello!

                              There is also a built-in script /etc/rc.kill_states that can be modified.

                              https://forum.netgate.com/topic/135614/failback-from-primary-wan-after-failover-to-secondary-wan

                              John

                              Lex parsimoniae

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                              • Raffi_R
                                Raffi_ @serbus
                                last edited by

                                @serbus said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

                                Hello!

                                There is also a built-in script /etc/rc.kill_states that can be modified.

                                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/135614/failback-from-primary-wan-after-failover-to-secondary-wan

                                John

                                @serbus thank you. I knew I remember reading about another script/method to get the job done. Now that I'm looking at these again, I might take a little time to give one a try. The built-in script seems to make more sense since it's already there.

                                @pfrickroll said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

                                I am just doing few things at a time at the moment.

                                Understood. You mentioned this being a new setup which you were beginning to test. This would be the best time to try any of these options out, especially if you haven't put this network into production yet. That is the most ideal scenario for testing anything you're not familiar with.

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                                  serbus
                                  last edited by

                                  Hello!

                                  There is a built-in system for packages that allows custom plugin code to be called on certain events.

                                  It is in /etc/inc/pfsense-utils.inc in function pkg_call_plugins

                                  It looks like several packages use the callback plugin (carp, certs). The gateway system also uses the callback in /etc/inc/gwlb.inc when there is a state change.

                                  It is calling for a package that has setup a plugin called "plugin_gateway". I dont see any official packages that have a plugin named that, but it could be the one referenced in this post:

                                  https://forum.netgate.com/topic/139455/list-of-hooks

                                  https://github.com/jazzl0ver/pfSense-pkg-gatewayhook

                                  I dont know why they would modify the official gwlb.inc code to call a plugin for a package that is not part of the official release...

                                  John

                                  Lex parsimoniae

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                                  • Raffi_R
                                    Raffi_
                                    last edited by Raffi_

                                    FYI, I ended up using the first script in the original thread I linked (take wan2 down and back up when wan1 is back up). I didn't do that because it was a better solution, but I found it easier to modify. I only had to change the defined interface for WAN2.
                                    https://forum.netgate.com/topic/84269/multi-wan-gateway-failover-not-switching-back-to-tier-1-gw-after-back-online/67?_=1601399952603

                                    The second script below it seems fundamentally better (killing states), but I have a DHCP wan2 and didn't want to use that since I wasn't sure how to modify it for my scenario.

                                    I haven't tested it yet since it's not big deal for me whether this works or not. I'm going to wait for a real event and see what happens.

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                                    • pfrickrollP
                                      pfrickroll @johnpoz
                                      last edited by

                                      @johnpoz said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

                                      That link he provided took you right to the post with the script

                                      #!/bin/sh
                                      
                                      # get active gateway and current time
                                      CURRENT_TIME="$(date +"%c")"
                                      CURRENT_GW="$(netstat -rn | grep default | awk '{print $4}')"
                                      
                                      if [ $CURRENT_GW = "em2" ]; then
                                      	#check if WAN1 is up or not
                                      	WAN1_STATUS="$(pfSsh.php playback gatewaystatus brief | grep WANGW | awk '{print $2}')"
                                      	if [ $WAN1_STATUS = "none" ]; then
                                      		#WAN1 is back online, stop/start WAN2
                                      		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing down WAN2"
                                      		ifconfig em2 down
                                      		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Sleeping for 30s"
                                      		sleep 30
                                      		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing up WAN2"
                                      		ifconfig em2 up
                                      	else
                                      		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: WAN1 is still down"
                                      	fi
                                      else
                                      	echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Nothing to do!"
                                      fi
                                      
                                      
                                      

                                      And just below post was another with the cron info and slightly modified script :) so not sure what link you followed?

                                      When i said I dont know about scripting I meant as I dont know anything pretty much.
                                      This script, do I run it in Diagnostics-Command Prompt-Execute PHP Commands or I put it somewhere in Diagnostics-Edit File?

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                                      • Raffi_R
                                        Raffi_ @pfrickroll
                                        last edited by Raffi_

                                        @pfrickroll said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

                                        When i said I dont know about scripting I meant as I dont know anything pretty much.
                                        This script, do I run it in Diagnostics-Command Prompt-Execute PHP Commands or I put it somewhere in Diagnostics-Edit File?

                                        Alrighty, let me see if I can help.

                                        Edit, I forgot the most important step. Backup your config before doing anything you're not familiar with.

                                        First, take that script and copy/paste it into a text editor on your PC, e.g., Notepad ++.

                                        Now figure out what your WAN2 interface is. Go to Interfaces > WAN2. In my case it is em1.
                                        Substitute that in place of anywhere it says em2 in the script. If your WAN2 is by chance also on em2, then you're in luck and don't have to edit anything.

                                        Save that text file and then change the name to something like failover_script.sh

                                        Now to upload that file go to Diagnostic > Command prompt. Use the Upload File and chose that file you just made. It will by default go to /tmp/. For the sake of simplicity you can leave it there if you want. I think you should be able to run it from there.

                                        Now you have to create a cron job to run that script on a schedule. Download the cron package if you don't already have it. System > Package Manager >Available Packages

                                        Go to Services > Cron > Add
                                        Here is what mine looks like as an example.
                                        cdaaa5f3-e195-4eb1-b8be-a9cb82c4972b-image.png
                                        This is set to run every 2 minutes. You can adjust that as you want. Also note that my script is in the root folder and has a different name.
                                        So in your case the command should be
                                        /tmp/failover_script.sh >> /tmp/failover_script.log

                                        Again, I'm not an expert on this either so if someone can point out better ways to do this or if I'm wrong, please let me know.

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                                        • pfrickrollP
                                          pfrickroll @Raffi_
                                          last edited by pfrickroll

                                          @Raffi_ My WAN 1 - igb0, WAN2 - igb2
                                          Is this correct?

                                          #!/bin/sh
                                          
                                          # get active gateway and current time
                                          CURRENT_TIME="$(date +"%c")"
                                          CURRENT_GW="$(netstat -rn | grep default | awk '{print $4}')"
                                          
                                          if [ $CURRENT_GW = "igb2" ]; then
                                          	#check if WAN1 is up or not
                                          	igb0_STATUS="$(pfSsh.php playback gatewaystatus brief | grep WANGW | awk '{print $2}')"
                                          	if [ $WAN1_STATUS = "none" ]; then
                                          		#WAN1 is back online, stop/start WAN2
                                          		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing down igb2"
                                          		ifconfig em2 down
                                          		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Sleeping for 30s"
                                          		sleep 30
                                          		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing up igb2"
                                          		ifconfig em2 up
                                          	else
                                          		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: igb0 is still down"
                                          	fi
                                          else
                                          	echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Nothing to do!"
                                          fi
                                          

                                          Interfaces.PNG

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                                          • Raffi_R
                                            Raffi_ @pfrickroll
                                            last edited by

                                            @pfrickroll said in Dual WAN Failover doesn't failover back to WAN 1:

                                            @Raffi_ My WAN 1 - igb0, WAN2 - igb2
                                            Is this correct?

                                            #!/bin/sh
                                            
                                            # get active gateway and current time
                                            CURRENT_TIME="$(date +"%c")"
                                            CURRENT_GW="$(netstat -rn | grep default | awk '{print $4}')"
                                            
                                            if [ $CURRENT_GW = "igb2" ]; then
                                            	#check if WAN1 is up or not
                                            	igb0_STATUS="$(pfSsh.php playback gatewaystatus brief | grep WANGW | awk '{print $2}')"
                                            	if [ $WAN1_STATUS = "none" ]; then
                                            		#WAN1 is back online, stop/start WAN2
                                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing down igb2"
                                            		ifconfig em2 down
                                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Sleeping for 30s"
                                            		sleep 30
                                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing up igb2"
                                            		ifconfig em2 up
                                            	else
                                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: igb0 is still down"
                                            	fi
                                            else
                                            	echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Nothing to do!"
                                            fi
                                            

                                            Close but not quite right. You missed two em2 lines. See below. I forgot to mention the WAN1 interface but it looks like you got that right.

                                            #!/bin/sh
                                            
                                            # get active gateway and current time
                                            CURRENT_TIME="$(date +"%c")"
                                            CURRENT_GW="$(netstat -rn | grep default | awk '{print $4}')"
                                            
                                            if [ $CURRENT_GW = "igb2" ]; then
                                            	#check if WAN1 is up or not
                                            	igb0_STATUS="$(pfSsh.php playback gatewaystatus brief | grep WANGW | awk '{print $2}')"
                                            	if [ $WAN1_STATUS = "none" ]; then
                                            		#WAN1 is back online, stop/start WAN2
                                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing down igb2"
                                            		ifconfig igb2 down
                                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Sleeping for 30s"
                                            		sleep 30
                                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Bringing up igb2"
                                            		ifconfig igb2 up
                                            	else
                                            		echo "$CURRENT_TIME: igb0 is still down"
                                            	fi
                                            else
                                            	echo "$CURRENT_TIME: Nothing to do!"
                                            fi
                                            
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