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  • J
    Jimbohello @bobbenheim
    last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 12:34 AM

    @bobbenheim

    this give a better result on lowering de error in the accuracy
    from a limit of 799
    i can reach 735

    before it was close to 500 !
    we are on the right way ! :)

    <dnshaper>
    <queue>
    <name>in</name>
    <number>1</number>
    <qlimit>100</qlimit>
    <plr></plr>
    <description></description>
    <bandwidth>
    <item>
    <bw>799</bw>
    <burst></burst>
    <bwscale>Mb</bwscale>
    <bwsched>none</bwsched>
    </item>
    </bandwidth>
    <enabled>on</enabled>
    <buckets></buckets>
    <mask>none</mask>
    <maskbits></maskbits>
    <maskbitsv6></maskbitsv6>
    <delay>0</delay>
    <sched>fq_codel</sched>
    <aqm>codel</aqm>
    <ecn>on</ecn>
    <queue>
    <name>in-queue</name>
    <number>1</number>
    <qlimit></qlimit>
    <description></description>
    <weight></weight>
    <enabled>on</enabled>
    <buckets></buckets>
    <mask>dstaddress</mask>
    <maskbits>32</maskbits>
    <maskbitsv6>128</maskbitsv6>
    <aqm>codel</aqm>
    <ecn></ecn>
    <param_codel_target>5</param_codel_target>
    <param_codel_interval>100</param_codel_interval>
    </queue>
    <param_fq_codel_target>5</param_fq_codel_target>
    <param_fq_codel_interval>100</param_fq_codel_interval>
    <param_fq_codel_quantum>1514</param_fq_codel_quantum>
    <param_fq_codel_limit>10240</param_fq_codel_limit>
    <param_fq_codel_flows>1024</param_fq_codel_flows>
    <param_codel_target>5</param_codel_target>
    <param_codel_interval>100</param_codel_interval>
    </queue>
    <queue>
    <name>out</name>
    <number>2</number>
    <qlimit>100</qlimit>
    <plr></plr>
    <description></description>
    <bandwidth>
    <item>
    <bw>799</bw>
    <burst></burst>
    <bwscale>Mb</bwscale>
    <bwsched>none</bwsched>
    </item>
    </bandwidth>
    <enabled>on</enabled>
    <buckets></buckets>
    <mask>none</mask>
    <maskbits></maskbits>
    <maskbitsv6></maskbitsv6>
    <delay>0</delay>
    <sched>fq_codel</sched>
    <aqm>codel</aqm>
    <ecn>on</ecn>
    <queue>
    <name>out-queue</name>
    <number>2</number>
    <qlimit></qlimit>
    <description></description>
    <weight></weight>
    <enabled>on</enabled>
    <buckets></buckets>
    <mask>srcaddress</mask>
    <maskbits>32</maskbits>
    <maskbitsv6>128</maskbitsv6>
    <aqm>codel</aqm>
    <ecn></ecn>
    <param_codel_target>5</param_codel_target>
    <param_codel_interval>100</param_codel_interval>
    </queue>
    <param_fq_codel_target>5</param_fq_codel_target>
    <param_fq_codel_interval>100</param_fq_codel_interval>
    <param_fq_codel_quantum>1514</param_fq_codel_quantum>
    <param_fq_codel_limit>10240</param_fq_codel_limit>
    <param_fq_codel_flows>1024</param_fq_codel_flows>
    <param_codel_target>5</param_codel_target>
    <param_codel_interval>100</param_codel_interval>
    </queue>
    </dnshaper>

    B S 2 Replies Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 11:53 AM Reply Quote 0
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      bobbenheim @Jimbohello
      last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 11:53 AM

      @Jimbohello can you run "top -aSH" in Diagnostics/Command Prompt and paste what it output under load?
      There might also be some tweaks you can do in loader.conf.local
      can you do a sysctl (e.g. "sysctl hw.em.enable_aim") in the command prompt for the following:
      hw.em.enable_aim
      hw.em.flow_control
      hw.em.num_queues
      hw.em.rx_process_limit
      hw.em.tx_process_limit
      hw.em.rxd
      hw.em.txd
      hw.em.max_interrupt_rate
      net.link.ifqmaxlen

      J 2 Replies Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 12:05 PM Reply Quote 0
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        Jimbohello @bobbenheim
        last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 12:05 PM

        @bobbenheim

        il get in touch as soon as i can do it ! but honestly
        this is getting far deeper for something that is created on a simple click. i means creating a limiter suppose to be easy as 123.
        IMO this is getthing ridiculous ! if so many thing need to be modify on a single limiter limitation, why when your press APPLY they donโ€™t run a script to set the right adjustement ! imagine you need to forward a port, and then you have to modify this and that TO MAKE IT WORK ! That will be irrelevent or if you prefer useless function !

        anyway ill get back to you
        youre help is please !

        N 1 Reply Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 1:35 PM Reply Quote 0
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          noplan @Jimbohello
          last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 1:35 PM

          @Jimbohello said in Wrong limiter speed:

          but honestly
          this is getting far deeper for something that is created on a simple click

          yes true and 4 WHAT

          cuz the limiter does what it is supposed to do !
          here and on some other boxes

          to be honest i can not see the use case for gettin as deep as shown here
          an any set up

          maybe u can help me out here explainin whats the urgent need

          J 1 Reply Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 2:13 PM Reply Quote 0
          • J
            Jimbohello @noplan
            last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 2:13 PM

            @noplan

            nothing urgent bro !
            simple !

            let say your 50 on a network, 5 start a download !
            the gateway goes down and packetloss occur on high level !

            with the limiter nothing of that appends because gateway still have room to breathed and nothing goes down on the gateway.

            that the big advantage of the limiter.

            B 1 Reply Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 2:43 PM Reply Quote 0
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              Stewart
              last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 2:28 PM

              For us, we were setting it up in a church. They stream several services at the same time. To accommodate this we brought in a second WAN and route specific devices out that interface. To prevent each machine from taking up too much of the bandwidth and affecting the other streams we limit their max usage. In this case it is a 35Mbps upload split between 4 devices, each with a 10Mbps upload limit but only needing 5Mbps for the streams. For example, there are 4 streams going and someone decides to (unwisely and against policy) upload a previous stream to the platform from one of the streaming boxes. Normally that would use up all possible bandwidth but with a limiter in place that particular device is unable to affect the other streams. If the full 10Mbps is used then there is still 25Mbps remaining for the other 3 devices. If each of those 3 devices is using 5Mbps then they are only using 15Mbps out of the 25Mbps, leaving a cushion of 10Mbps. Technically, in this case, 3 users could be offending and the 4th stream should still run fine. Without the limiter just one bad actor could ruin it for everyone else.

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                Stewart @Jimbohello
                last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 2:42 PM

                @Jimbohello said in Wrong limiter speed:

                on

                Could you post this as a screenshot, cropped to just the config section? I'm having a hard time following and duplicating. Thanks.

                J 1 Reply Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 4:42 PM Reply Quote 0
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                  bobbenheim @Jimbohello
                  last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 2:43 PM

                  @Jimbohello The problem is that traffic shaping isn't a one size fits all kinda setup. Default settings is more likely to be something that works with bandwidths likely to be 100 Mb/s or below because that is what general use cases were, when the settings were chosen. These settings doesn't take other factors, like different types of hardware setup used or what type of internet connection is used (COAX, xDSL, PTP fiber, GPON fiber), into consideration.
                  This also means that the above 900 Mb/s, like in your case, doesn't show the expected performance because the default settings just doesn't work well for that kinda of bandwidth. So this means that tuning is necessary to either obtain the maximum performance which is possible or what is expected as set by the limiter. Once done tuning you can leave it alone and don't bother with it again.

                  J 1 Reply Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 2:56 PM Reply Quote 0
                  • J
                    Jimbohello @bobbenheim
                    last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 2:56 PM

                    @bobbenheim

                    thankโ€™s for the explaination!
                    verry appreciate
                    ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘

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                      Jimbohello @bobbenheim
                      last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 4:11 PM

                      @bobbenheim said in Wrong limiter speed:

                      top -aSH - speddtest.net

                      last pid: 33530; load averages: 0.07, 0.06, 0.01 up 19+18:28:36 12:05:35
                      181 processes: 5 running, 149 sleeping, 27 waiting

                      Mem: 11M Active, 135M Inact, 189M Wired, 19M Buf, 7474M Free
                      Swap: 3979M Total, 3979M Free

                      PID USERNAME PRI NICE SIZE RES STATE C TIME WCPU COMMAND
                      11 root 155 ki31 0K 64K CPU1 1 474.2H 100.00% [idle{idle: cpu1}]
                      11 root 155 ki31 0K 64K CPU3 3 474.2H 100.00% [idle{idle: cpu3}]
                      11 root 155 ki31 0K 64K CPU2 2 474.2H 100.00% [idle{idle: cpu2}]
                      11 root 155 ki31 0K 64K RUN 0 468.6H 100.00% [idle{idle: cpu0}]
                      12 root -92 - 0K 432K WAIT 2 1:48 4.59% [intr{irq269: em1:rx0}]
                      12 root -92 - 0K 432K WAIT 0 2:44 3.96% [intr{irq264: em0:rx0}]
                      346 root 26 0 99704K 39460K piperd 3 0:06 1.17% php-fpm: pool nginx (php-fpm){php-fpm}
                      12 root -92 - 0K 432K WAIT 1 0:11 0.20% [intr{irq265: em0:tx0}]
                      347 root 52 0 95092K 36704K accept 3 0:05 0.20% php-fpm: pool nginx (php-fpm)
                      0 root -92 - 0K 624K - 2 334:57 0.00% [kernel{dummynet}]
                      12 root -60 - 0K 432K WAIT 1 10:59 0.00% [intr{swi4: clock (0)}]
                      23 root -16 - 0K 16K - 2 1:02 0.00% [rand_harvestq]
                      84645 root 52 20 6976K 2752K wait 2 1:00 0.00% /bin/sh /var/db/rrd/updaterrd.sh
                      20 root -16 - 0K 16K pftm 2 0:41 0.00% [pf purge]
                      46951 unbound 20 0 60368K 37608K kqread 3 0:28 0.00% /usr/local/sbin/unbound -c /var/unbound/unbound.conf{unbound}
                      28775 root 20 0 6904K 2340K nanslp 2 0:23 0.00% /usr/local/bin/dpinger -S -r 0 -i WAN_PPPOE -B 65.94.26.33 -p /var/run/dpinger_WAN_PPPOE~65.94.26.33~10.11.16.17.pid -u /var/ru
                      0 root -16 - 0K 624K swapin 1 0:20 0.00% [kernel{swapper}]
                      70389 root 20 0 12464K 5760K select 3 0:16 0.00% /usr/local/sbin/ntpd -g -c /var/etc/ntpd.conf -p /var/run/ntpd.pid{ntpd}

                      sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.em.enable_aim'
                      sysctl: unknown oid hw.em.flow_control
                      sysctl: unknown oid hw.em.tx_process_limit
                      hw.em.rx_process_limit: 100
                      hw.em.rx_process_limit: 100
                      hw.em.rxd: 1024
                      hw.em.txd: 1024
                      sysctl: unknown oid 'hw.em.max_interrupt_rate'
                      net.link.ifqmaxlen: 128

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                      • J
                        Jimbohello @Stewart
                        last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 4:42 PM

                        @Stewart in.zip in-queue.zip

                        same for the out queue except sources/adress

                        B 1 Reply Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 5:21 PM Reply Quote 0
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                          bobbenheim @Jimbohello
                          last edited by bobbenheim Sep 29, 2020, 5:22 PM Sep 29, 2020, 5:21 PM

                          @Jimbohello can you please run "sysctl hw.em" and "sysctl dev.em" in the command prompt and paste the result.

                          J 1 Reply Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 5:25 PM Reply Quote 0
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                            Jimbohello @bobbenheim
                            last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 5:25 PM

                            @bobbenheim said in Wrong limiter speed:

                            sysctl hw.em

                            hw.em.eee_setting: 1
                            hw.em.rx_process_limit: 100
                            hw.em.enable_msix: 1
                            hw.em.sbp: 0
                            hw.em.smart_pwr_down: 0
                            hw.em.txd: 1024
                            hw.em.rxd: 1024
                            hw.em.rx_abs_int_delay: 66
                            hw.em.tx_abs_int_delay: 66
                            hw.em.rx_int_delay: 0
                            hw.em.tx_int_delay: 66
                            hw.em.disable_crc_stripping: 0

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                              noplan
                              last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 7:44 PM

                              OK
                              I m Readin and learning

                              A Lot
                              Thank you!!!

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                                bobbenheim @Jimbohello
                                last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 8:30 PM

                                @Jimbohello I just assume you haven't tried this before so i will list the following out in simple steps:

                                • go to Diagnostics / Edit File

                                • press browse and find boot/loader.conf

                                • add .local so you get the string "/boot/loader.conf.local" and press save

                                • press browse then find and click on loader.conf.local

                                • delete the commands within loader.conf.local and add the following:
                                  hw.em.eee_setting="0"
                                  hw.em.rx_process_limit="-1"
                                  hw.em.txd="2048"
                                  hw.em.rxd="2048"
                                  net.link.ifqmaxlen="4096"

                                • hit save and reboot

                                J 3 Replies Last reply Sep 29, 2020, 9:54 PM Reply Quote 0
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                                  Jimbohello @bobbenheim
                                  last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 9:54 PM

                                  @bobbenheim

                                  WOW thank's for your precious help
                                  on a limiter of 799 i can same as yesterday so close to 735
                                  so no change !
                                  up to date the queue lenght 100 was the best tunning
                                  can you please provide fast explanation on these Tuning you provide !
                                  i know that *.local usually will load the *.conf and override.
                                  But what are these tunning ??
                                  THANK'S

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                                    Jimbohello @bobbenheim
                                    last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 9:59 PM

                                    @bobbenheim
                                    1 came close to 760 !
                                    i can easy live with that.
                                    that's the best setting so far ! it's almost the limiter setting 799 ! the accuracy bettewn 760/799 is damw better !
                                    BRAVO !
                                    explaination on your tunning steel be please ! GRACIAS

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                                      bobbenheim
                                      last edited by Sep 29, 2020, 10:32 PM

                                      Try and keep a download running for some minutes and check monitoring you might have the correct limitation but the speedtest are not taking overhead into consideration.
                                      Need to get back to you on those settings, it's time for some sleep :)

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                                        bobbenheim
                                        last edited by Sep 30, 2020, 12:16 PM

                                        Found a couple of links that explains what the following does:

                                        hw.em.eee_setting
                                        https://www.freebsd.org/cgi/man.cgi?em(4)

                                        hw.em.rx_process_limit
                                        hw.em.rxd
                                        hw.em.txd
                                        net.link.ifqmaxlen
                                        https://calomel.org/freebsd_network_tuning.html
                                        look under local.conf and just ignore that he uses an Intel nic which uses the igb driver instead of the em driver.

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                                          Jimbohello @bobbenheim
                                          last edited by Sep 30, 2020, 5:25 PM

                                          @bobbenheim
                                          i look at the link you send me
                                          hw.em.eee_setting="0"
                                          mean that energy is enabled
                                          to be at full (no Energy Efficient Ethernet) always should it be disable =1
                                          to force the nic to be at maximum !??

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