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iOS 14 introduces private addresses

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    Qinn
    last edited by Qinn Oct 3, 2020, 5:23 PM Oct 3, 2020, 5:14 PM

    What idiot came up with his (pardon my French)? That means organizations using 802.1x MAC authentication will have a major headache on their hands. Read somewhere else it changes every 24 hours ;( for now I enabled Deny unknown clients every user will squeal

    https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT211227

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Oct 3, 2020, 6:20 PM

      Yup, fun. 😉

      Android does it too.

      My understanding here is that they will use the same MAC on known wifi connections but will initially randomly generate it. That way when searching for available networks the client cannot be tracked by MAC.

      Discussed here: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/156928/private-mac-addresses-in-ios14
      Probably better to continue that thread.

      Steve

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        viragomann @Qinn
        last edited by Oct 3, 2020, 7:27 PM

        @Qinn
        You can deactivate it on SSID base. So what's the big trouble?

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          JKnott @Qinn
          last edited by Oct 4, 2020, 1:29 AM

          @Qinn said in iOS 14 introduces private addresses:

          That means organizations using 802.1x MAC authentication will have a major headache on their hands. Read somewhere else it changes every 24 hours

          I created a new connection with a random MAC on my Pixel 2 13 days ago. It still connects. Did you read about that with Android or iPhone?

          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
          UniFi AC-Lite access point

          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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            Qinn @stephenw10
            last edited by Oct 4, 2020, 12:15 PM

            @stephenw10 Maybe merge this post or close it?

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              A Former User @viragomann
              last edited by A Former User Oct 4, 2020, 4:03 PM Oct 4, 2020, 12:19 PM

              @viragomann said in iOS 14 introduces private addresses:

              @Qinn
              You can deactivate it on SSID base. So what's the big trouble?

              A significant number of users will not open the settings app. When things don't work they will simply panic. Would be better opt-in than opt-out.

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                Qinn @A Former User
                last edited by Qinn Oct 4, 2020, 3:59 PM Oct 4, 2020, 3:55 PM

                @jwj Exactly many people have no idea what a mac address is and switch into panic mode.
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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Oct 4, 2020, 4:42 PM

                  Ok, take further discussion of this here please:
                  https://forum.netgate.com/topic/156928/private-mac-addresses-in-ios14

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