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    • provelsP
      provels
      last edited by

      So if you take another computer of your own and hard code the IP to something in the 128.0.20.0 network, the same thing happens? Or just this other computer? Possibly a virus/trojan?

      Peder

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        patrick38
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        I didn't test yet, I will try this if there is no better idea.
        But it was not the same computer each time (so probably not a virus either)

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        • provelsP
          provels
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          Sounds like a loop. I don't know if this is possible, but if a laptop has both Wi-Fi and physical card enabled and both Wi-Fi and hard link are offered, will it loop?

          Or maybe someone brought in a home switch and looped some ports.

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            akuma1x @provels
            last edited by akuma1x

            @provels said in Broadcast to unknown network broke the whole network:

            Sounds like a loop. I don't know if this is possible, but if a laptop has both Wi-Fi and physical card enabled and both Wi-Fi and hard link are offered, will it loop?

            No, it doesn't do it like that. The laptop simply gets 2 IP addresses - 1 from the wired ethernet network, and 1 from the wifi network. It's called Multihoming.

            It works just fine, at least on my networks. I'm not saying it's right, but simply that it doesn't typically cause any problems at the network level.

            Jeff

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              patrick38
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              Hello,

              It's not a loop.
              Each time we solve the problem by unplugging the computer and rebooting switchs and Pfsense.

              We just disabled Netbios in the DHCP options to see if it change anything.
              Can IGMP Snooping in the switchs configuration help with this?

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              • provelsP
                provels
                last edited by

                Maybe a bum cable or port at the client end getting shorted?
                Try the PC in another port.
                Try another PC in same port.
                ?

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                  patrick38
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                  It's a different port each time :/

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    Lets see a sniff of this traffic please.. Upload pcap, if your getting 150MBps should be easy to get a few packets to post up..

                    Why do you think its broadcast, because it ends with 255? .255 as last octet doesn't mean its directed broadcast unless the clients mask is /24.. If if your network was 128.0.0.0/22, 128.0.2.255 would just be a host address.

                    128.0.2 is owned by

                    inetnum: 128.0.2.0 - 128.0.2.255
                    netname: HELPNET-FARMA-SA
                    descr: HELPNET FARMA SA
                    descr: Str. Malu Rosu, nr 4
                    descr: Balotesti, Ilfov, Romania
                    geoloc: 44.603193 26.074194
                    country: ro

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                      patrick38
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                      I just managed to reproduce the problem
                      If I put my computer on a random static IP outside the network (128.0.2.50/24) and plug it on any switch, it broke everything (switchs are blinking, no network for all other computers).

                      So, I can test some ideas and see if it's solved or not

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        And this computer was flooding the network with broadcast?

                        Lets see this broadcast please via a pcap.. So can load it into wireshark.

                        But how would have anything to do with pfsense?

                        Just set a pc to use that IP

                        thernet adapter Ethernet 2:
                        
                           Connection-specific DNS Suffix  . :
                           Description . . . . . . . . . . . : Realtek PCIe GbE Family Controller #2
                           Physical Address. . . . . . . . . : 00-13-3B-2F-67-62
                           DHCP Enabled. . . . . . . . . . . : No
                           Autoconfiguration Enabled . . . . : Yes
                           IPv4 Address. . . . . . . . . . . : 128.0.2.50(Preferred)
                           Subnet Mask . . . . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
                           Default Gateway . . . . . . . . . :
                           NetBIOS over Tcpip. . . . . . . . : Enabled
                        

                        No flooding..

                        Pfsense has no control or say in what a client puts on the network..

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