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    ATV4 wants to connect to an "unknown" ip on TCP/7000

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    • bingo600B
      bingo600 @kiokoman
      last edited by

      @kiokoman
      Thats my ATV4 ip

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      • bingo600B
        bingo600 @NogBadTheBad
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        @NogBadTheBad

        I won't disagree here.
        But i have (AFAIK) , nothing announcing that ip or range.

        That's why i would like to see what avahi (pfsense) has picked up.
        But i can't seem to list the db on the pfsense, it just says client not running.

        It's not super important , but annoying that spooky things happens on my net.

        The ATV4 tries to connect to that ip , after a power off too.

        /ingo

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        • NogBadTheBadN
          NogBadTheBad
          last edited by

          @bingo600 said in ATV4 wants to connect to an "unknown" ip on TCP/7000:

          The ATV4 tries to connect to that ip , after a power off too

          Try an avahi-browse -r -a not sure if it's in the pfSense package.

          You may see it, from my homebridge box:-

          =   eth0 IPv6 70-35-60-63.1 Living Room Apple TV            _sleep-proxy._udp    local
             hostname = [Living-Room-Apple-TV.local]
             address = [172.16.4.12]
             port = [57806]
             txt = []
          

          Andy

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          • IsaacFLI
            IsaacFL @bingo600
            last edited by

            @bingo600

            I have seen this Apple traffic also. I use 10.0.0.0/24 subnets for my local network, but Apple devices (apple tvs, ipads, iphones) still send traffic to 192.168.0.0/16 port 7000. I finally made a rule to not log it.

            Screenshot 2020-10-11 084304.png

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            • bingo600B
              bingo600 @NogBadTheBad
              last edited by

              @NogBadTheBad said in ATV4 wants to connect to an "unknown" ip on TCP/7000:

              avahi-browse -r -a

              Avahi still gives client not running.

              [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@..]/root:  avahi-browse -r -a
              Failed to create client object: Daemon not running
              
              [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@..]/root: ps aux | grep avahi
              avahi   29428   0.0  0.0    7504    2836  -  I    Thu08        5:17.06 avahi-da
              [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@..]/root: 
              
              

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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @IsaacFL
                last edited by

                @IsaacFL
                Thanx for that info , i might end up doing the same

                /Bingo

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                • NogBadTheBadN
                  NogBadTheBad @bingo600
                  last edited by NogBadTheBad

                  @bingo600 said in ATV4 wants to connect to an "unknown" ip on TCP/7000:

                  @NogBadTheBad said in ATV4 wants to connect to an "unknown" ip on TCP/7000:

                  avahi-browse -r -a

                  Avahi still gives client not running.

                  [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@..]/root:  avahi-browse -r -a
                  Failed to create client object: Daemon not running
                  
                  [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@..]/root: ps aux | grep avahi
                  avahi   29428   0.0  0.0    7504    2836  -  I    Thu08        5:17.06 avahi-da
                  [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@..]/root: 
                  
                  

                  So it looks like avahi-browse doesn’t get installed with the avahi pkg, i don’t have it installed and ran avahi-browse from a raspberry pi.

                  For the life of me I can’t see the Apple TV’s trying to Airplay to a device without it seeing a source via MDNS.

                  Andy

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                  • bingo600B
                    bingo600 @NogBadTheBad
                    last edited by bingo600

                    @NogBadTheBad

                    I did install avahi-daemon + utils on my Deb-10 mini-dlna server on the same Vlan.

                    And used : avahi-browse -r -a -t -v

                    I see announcements from my ATV4 + my ATV3 + the pfSense
                    None of these announces anything in the 192.168.x.x range

                    Maybe IsacFL is right , apple does strange things in the 192.168.x.x range.
                    Could be that 192.168.1.x id the most used home lan-range out there

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                    • NogBadTheBadN
                      NogBadTheBad
                      last edited by NogBadTheBad

                      Just added a block & log rule, lets see if I see anything.

                      Do you both have an ATV3, I just have 2 x ATV4s?

                      Screenshot 2020-10-13 at 09.42.31.png

                      Andy

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                      • bingo600B
                        bingo600 @NogBadTheBad
                        last edited by bingo600

                        @NogBadTheBad

                        That rule ought to catch "it" , if any traffic šŸ‘
                        I have an ATV4-4K + an old ATV3 (guest room).
                        The ATV3 is still fine for NetFlix , and i actually like the UI + Remote better than on the 4's.

                        /Bingo

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                        • IsaacFLI
                          IsaacFL @NogBadTheBad
                          last edited by

                          @NogBadTheBad said in ATV4 wants to connect to an "unknown" ip on TCP/7000:

                          Just added a block & log rule, lets see if I see anything.

                          Do you both have an ATV3, I just have 2 x ATV4s?

                          I have 2 of the Apple Tvs just prior to the 4K (so 1080P)

                          I noticed though that it is not just the AppleTVs. The iphones and and ipad are also talking back and forth using 192.168.x.x. You have to use something like WireShark to see it and it is not a lot of traffic.

                          If you google enough you will find others have seen this also, but since most common home net is using the 192.168, it goes unnoticed.

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                          • NogBadTheBadN
                            NogBadTheBad @IsaacFL
                            last edited by NogBadTheBad

                            @IsaacFL

                            I still haven’t seen any hits to a 192.168.0.0/16 address.

                            By ā€œ I have 2 of the Apple Tvs just prior to the 4K (so 1080P)ā€ do you mean you have 2 1080 non 4K Apple TV 4’s ?

                            Andy

                            1 x Netgate SG-4860 - 3 x Linksys LGS308P - 1 x Aruba InstantOn AP22

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                            • bingo600B
                              bingo600 @NogBadTheBad
                              last edited by bingo600

                              @NogBadTheBad

                              I just noticed this one "sigh" ...
                              https://www.reddit.com/r/HomeKit/comments/bk1ee9/home_app_tries_to_communicate_with_random_ip_on/

                              I live in an appartment , and have lot's of neighbours within BT range

                              Could be the culprit.

                              Edit:
                              As i have both an ATV3 (VPN to US) + an ATV4 in the livingroom , i had ATV3 remote control issues. The ATV4 was picking up the ATV3 remote IR signals.

                              I blocked the ATV4 IR sensor by covering the ATV4 left front with "Black tape", and now rely on the ATV4 to get the commands via BT (working fine).

                              That makes disabling BT on the ATV4, "not an option".

                              Well ... The "loveliness" of wireless , and "ease of use" before security

                              Edit2: Enabling "on same Lan" would prevent my iPhone/iPad on the "Phone Vlan" to Stream to my ATV4 on the "Mmedia Vlan" .

                              I guesst i should just learn to live with those TCP:7000 packet blocks.
                              /Bingo

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                              • bingo600B
                                bingo600
                                last edited by

                                Now my ATV4 has "Fallen in love with 192.168.1.14 TCP:7000"

                                Well i have had it ...
                                Made a deny rule targeting ATV4 -> 192.168.1.0/24 (I dont have that range) , and disabled logging.

                                /Bingo

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