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    Unifi controller on pfsense?

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    • JKnottJ
      JKnott @plfinch
      last edited by

      @plfinch

      Tnx. I'll have to look into that.

      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
      UniFi AC-Lite access point

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      • JKnottJ
        JKnott @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

        If you don't want to run debian or ubuntu - then just run it as a VM on said box or via a docker..

        I run opensuse and don't plan to change. However, I have found a package for the version I'm running. I have exchanged email with the person maintaining the repository and expect to have it running shortly. I just have to get past some certificate errors.

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        UniFi AC-Lite access point

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by

          VM gives you the ability to take snapshots.. so if you want to play with new version of the controller, and something doesn't work it takes 30 seconds to rollback. You can install very min install of the VM, and doesn't need much ram.. Mine is currently running with 1GB of ram given to it, and uses like nothing of the host cpu.. currently show it using a whole 4% ;)

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          • bingo600B
            bingo600 @JKnott
            last edited by

            @JKnott
            I'm a Debian/Mint guy.

            But just had to fire up SLES on a VM in order to install a Siemens OpenScape PBX.

            One uses the tool that fits best 😊

            Well .. If you get the package served ...

            /Bingo

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            • JKnottJ
              JKnott @johnpoz
              last edited by

              @johnpoz

              BTW, I got the AP-Lite and it appears to work well. Even on 802.11n on 2.4 GHz, I'm getting about twice the performance of my TP-Link AP. Also, it doesn't have that TP-Link VLAN "feature" that prevented me from running IPv6 on my guest WiFi.

              802.11ac is about 10x the performance I was getting on 2.4 GHz.

              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
              UniFi AC-Lite access point

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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @johnpoz
                last edited by bingo600

                @johnpoz said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                VM gives you the ability to take snapshots..

                Cheater ... I bet you use the licensed version (i assume ESXi)
                I use the free , where API's are crippled.
                AFAIK free can't do snapshots "Live" or ??

                I do know that ghettoVCB (backup for free) don't like snapshots.

                /Bingo

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                  last edited by johnpoz

                  I have a lite in the guest room - works fine.. The pro in the center of the house is the normal work horse with the most clients on it. And then have a LR in the kitchen near the patio door that covers that side of the house and also good coverage of the patio that is off the kitchen. They make a nice AP... But if you don't really have to run the controller if you don't want to.. You could just leave it on windows, if you happen to have a windows machine - and just fire it up if you want to make a change, or troubleshoot something.

                  I leave mine up all the time because I like the info that provides you.. But its not really a requirement to have the controller up and running 24/7 if you don't really have a place to do what on..

                  edit:
                  While I use to run the free esxi version, last couple of years I just use the VM Manager on my synology nas.. Even if you can not take "snapshots" with the vm software your using - you can always just export copy of the VM before you make changes, so you could always put the VM back to how it was, etc. But pretty sure even with free esxi you can do snapshots - you can't do vmotion without lic for that.. Been a couple of years :(

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                  • kiokomanK
                    kiokoman LAYER 8 @bingo600
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                    @bingo600
                    you can take snapshot on free version of esxi without any problem

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                      ^ yeah I thought you could.. I remember doing it, and I only had the free license..

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                      • bingo600B
                        bingo600 @kiokoman
                        last edited by

                        @kiokoman
                        Cool
                        Will try ASAP

                        Thanx 👍

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                        • kiokomanK
                          kiokoman LAYER 8
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                          the only limitation afaik is that you have to use vmxnet3 / emulated network card, it does not work with passthrough

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                          • bingo600B
                            bingo600 @kiokoman
                            last edited by

                            @kiokoman said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                            the only limitation afaik is that you have to use vmxnet3 / emulated network card, it does not work with passthrough

                            For the snapshots ?
                            Aren't they Disk copy only or ?

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                            • bingo600B
                              bingo600 @johnpoz
                              last edited by

                              @johnpoz said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                              ^ yeah I thought you could.. I remember doing it, and I only had the free license..

                              Sorry JP
                              I just made a snapshot 🤕
                              Why didn't i try that before now ... In my mind snapshot was crippled on free

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                              • kiokomanK
                                kiokoman LAYER 8
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                                it's a limitation, I don't remember the details but if you have something configured as passthrough (network card or video card or something else) you can't take live snapshot only offline snapshot

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                                • bmeeksB
                                  bmeeks
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                                  A VM running UniFi Controller is nice, and is what I use at home currently. However, if you have a PoE switch I would very seriously consider running the CloudKey USB dongle. I use one for our church setup. Works great.

                                  Yeah, it's more expensive than a VM if you already have the hypervisor hardware, but it you don't have the hardware, then the cost of the CloudKey is pretty reasonable (assuming you have a PoE switch already for your UniFi APs). Of course with no PoE switch to plug the dongle into, then a VM is a better option.

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                                  • JKnottJ
                                    JKnott @johnpoz
                                    last edited by

                                    @johnpoz

                                    I live in a condo, which a single AP covers well. Even the TP-Link did that. What VM are you referring to? I have VirtualBox on a couple of computers and had considered an Ubuntu VM to run the controller.

                                    PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                    i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                    UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                    I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                      viragomann @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                                      I leave mine up all the time because I like the info that provides you.. But its not really a requirement to have the controller up and running 24/7

                                      Isn't it necessary for seamless roaming to run the controller 24/7?

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                                      • JKnottJ
                                        JKnott @viragomann
                                        last edited by

                                        @viragomann said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                                        Isn't it necessary for seamless roaming to run the controller 24/7?

                                        With only a single AP, I wouldn't have a lot of roaming. 😉

                                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                          viragomann @JKnott
                                          last edited by

                                          @JKnott
                                          But @johnpoz has multiple.

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                                          • bingo600B
                                            bingo600 @viragomann
                                            last edited by

                                            @viragomann said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                                            Isn't it necessary for seamless roaming to run the controller 24/7?

                                            Can the UBI's run seamless roaming ?

                                            I know my Cisco WLC's can but they tunnel every endpoint back to the controller. And the WLC's have hefty CPU's for the encapsulation.

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