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    What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?

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    • bingo600B
      bingo600 @A Former User
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      @jwj

      What are you going to use 6E for ?
      I mean even if i got a 6E AP , my lappy doesn't even have an AC adapter. My new Ipad might have AC (spring 2020) , but i think that's prob the only client device i have that can do AC.
      Well maybe my ATV-4K can too.

      What i'm trying to say is that if you change , you should be future proof , but ... As you mention i'm not in a hurry...

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      • ?
        A Former User @bingo600
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        @bingo600 Exactly. That's why I bought one and will get another wave 2 AP. Looking forward to 6E when all the parts catch up. Late 2021 maybe. 2022 more likely.

        Dealing with Apple doesn't make this any easier. New Macbook's with their new chips. First WiFi 6 laptops from them. They put in a 2x2 radio... <face palm>

        Eventually 6E will be good for me. Urban location (new place), all the new spectrum means, at least for a while, your not dealing with all the neighbors networks.

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @bingo600
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          @bingo600 said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

          My new Ipad might have AC (spring 2020

          That is a given... Ipads have had AC since back like 2014 with the ipad air 2 I believe..

          I know they can do AC, since I have one of them ;)

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          • bingo600B
            bingo600 @johnpoz
            last edited by bingo600

            @johnpoz said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

            @bingo600 said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

            My new Ipad might have AC (spring 2020

            That is a given... Ipads have had AC since back like 2014 with the ipad air 2 I believe..

            I know they can do AC, since I have one of them ;)

            air2.png

            Haven't even bothered to check ...
            I have a C2702 as livingroom AP, ought to do AC - Yupp 802.11ac Wave 1

            I see around 20+ 2.4GHz SSID's at home (packed) , i usually make specific 5GHz SSID's to connect to. Not nearly as crowded. Like 4 SSID's below 80dB.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @A Former User
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              @jwj said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

              your not dealing with all the neighbors networks

              Yeah that is one advantage of using latest tech - your neighbors prob not keeping up ;)

              If you can leverage DFS channels - highly unlikely many of your neighbors are for example..

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              • ?
                A Former User @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

                leverage DFS channels

                Right now I have one neighbor with brand new service from Spectrum. Using the supplied cable modem/router/AP garbage. It is WiFi 6. They turned it on and it configured 2 80MHz channels, one channel 52 (DFS) and one channel 132 (DFS) that it bonds together for a 160MHz connection. It's BS. No one is going to be able to use that bonded channel unless they really know what they are doing and have the gear to support that. Now they are squatting on two channels for no value to them. I will be watching to see what happens when we get a storm and the radar from the airport sweeps the neighborhood. So, they're far enough away that I don't really care but still... In an apartment or Co-Op building that is really going to suck.

                This is out of the box. They pick this crap up at the Spectrum office go home, turn it on, put in a network name and password (wanna bet the password is trivially brute forcible?) on the activation website and go on their way. I don't blame the non technical customer but Spectrum should be drawn and quartered.

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @A Former User
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                  @jwj said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

                  and have the gear to support that.

                  A 160mhz channel? What device is going to support that??

                  Shoot many devices have issues with DFS for sure.. Let alone a 160mhz setup..

                  You sure that is how they come out of the box... I would think ISP would want the most compatible setup.. Prob auto channel for both 2.4 and 5.. While 40 might default for 5 I would think they would do 20 for sure on 2.4 if not even on the 5 channels.. This provides for the most likely setup for connections.

                  I would think such a setup more the user dicking with it..

                  edit: BTW those channel numbers are ODD if they are trying to do 160.. 50 and 114 are 160 channels are they not?

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                  • ?
                    A Former User @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

                    I would think such a setup more the user dicking with it..

                    We were over there chatting Yesterday afternoon. She couldn't change anything even if she wanted to. Totally non technical.

                    It is all backward compatible. Her stuff works fine. She'll let me look at it sometime today or tomorrow so I'll see what this Arris POS is all about then.

                    Reality is, Spectrum really does suck that badly. They just don't give a flying F about anything. They freaking scheduled a 6 hour outage in the middle of the day a few weeks ago for "maintenance". Not like anyone is working from home or doing remote learning...

                    I looked at the WiFi 6 specs, one of the things is the ability to bond non adjacent channels. I guess that is useful...

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                      If you read this review, it talks about how these adapters have driver issues and dont actually perform much better than 3gbps. When I played around with the 5gbps usb-c adapter from QNAP with my 10gbe network, I had similar driver issues. The adapter would drop if I transferred large files for 15 minutes or more - the only way to get the adapter to reconnect would be to reboot the machine.

                      https://www.servethehome.com/trendnet-tuc-et5g-usb-type-c-to-5gbe-nic-review/

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                      • Sergei_ShablovskyS
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                        @paint said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

                        @johnpoz said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

                        @paint said in What is Best USB NIC 10Gbps that is supported by Pfsense?:

                        You can get brocade switches pretty cheap

                        And what do they draw for power? While that is great if a lab and only on X hours a week.. But old enterprise gear is not power friendly ;) Just what I don't want is some switch drawing 150W ;)

                        ethernet cat 5 cannot deliver good performance anymore

                        5e can do 5gbps.. And reported even 10ge for short distances.. But when I do go 10g, it will most likely be fiber.. I just want the copper support for 2.5 and 5gig..

                        At some point would like to see atleast 2.5 on my APs - and sure don't want to have to rerun cable in the attic - which is 5e..

                        These pull much less than 150w.....

                        https://forums.servethehome.com/index.php?threads/brocade-icx-series-cheap-powerful-10gbe-40gbe-switching.21107/

                        My vote to used Brocade with fiber connection: perfect quality and stable working.

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