To 2.5.0 or not ? that is the question :)

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juanpadiaz

We have had a very bad experience with the update to version 2.5 or 21.02 as it appears on the dashboard, and this has more to do with support for previous versions, I have more than 100 devices running on version 2.4.5-RELEASE -p1 and none of these allow me to update or install packages from the package manager

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bmeeks

@juanpadiaz said in To 2.5.0 or not ? that is the question :):

We have had a very bad experience with the update to version 2.5 or 21.02 as it appears on the dashboard, and this has more to do with support for previous versions, I have more than 100 devices running on version 2.4.5-RELEASE -p1 and none of these allow me to update or install packages from the package manager

You should be able to install packages on the 2.4.5 RELEASE if you go to the Update Manager screen and change the drop-down to "Previous Stable Version" (or something akin to that wording). That will reset pkg on your system to reference and use the older repository.

However, if you have already tried to install a 2.5 package onto pfSense-2.4.5, you may have corrupted pkg as it would get updated with the latest version which is likely to have issues with the shared libraries present in the older 2.4.5 pfSense. Note that packages in the 2.4.5 repository tree will stay at their current versions. Updates to packages will only happen in the "current" pfSense release which is now either 2.5 or 21.02, depending on whether you are using Community Edition on generic hardware, or running the new pfSense+ on Netgate hardware.

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juanpadiaz

@bmeeks Many thanks, we are using Netgate hardware but we already try to install packages from a 2.4.5-RELEASE-p1, never updated one, and the package manager just gives us, and the premium support doesn't have the right response yet, we can not just upgrade all of our production devices without any tests, but any device with the version 2.4.5-p1 or older are not able to download or install packages via the package manager.

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SeaMonkey

None of my static routes are active in my routing table after upgrading. I tried disabling and re-enabling to no avail.

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bmeeks

@juanpadiaz said in To 2.5.0 or not ? that is the question :):

@bmeeks Many thanks, we are using Netgate hardware but we already try to install packages from a 2.4.5-RELEASE-p1, never updated one, and the package manager just gives us, and the premium support doesn't have the right response yet, we can not just upgrade all of our production devices without any tests, but any device with the version 2.4.5-p1 or older are not able to download or install packages via the package manager.

The translation to English is a bit confusing to me, so please forgive me asking additional questions. So are you saying you have a pfSense-2.4.5_p1 box that you never attempted to update anything on, and you went first to the Update Settings page and changed the drop-down there to "Previous Stable Version (2.4.5 deprecated)" and saved that change? Then you go to SYSTEM > PACKAGES and can't do anything? Or did you first go to SYSTEM > PACKAGES and attempt to install a package BEFORE you changed the Update Settings value in the drop-down? The sequence is critical. If you attempted to install or update a package before you changed the pkg utility on your firewall to reference the "Previous Stable Version (2.4.5 deprecated)", then that would have immediately installed an updated pkg binary on your 2.4.5 firewall, but from the 2.5 (or 21.02) new pfSense repository. That newer pkg utility can't work on 2.4.5_p1. That can cause the issue you are seeing.

Go check out this thread: https://forum.netgate.com/topic/160989/upgrade-packages-on-2-4-5-p1/6 and see if the solution there helps you.

juanpadiaz

@bmeeks Not a problem bmeeks, first devices with 2.4.5_p1 on production cant download or install packages from the package manager, i mean devices with any pfsense version upgrade I have many of them, these problem is a pretty big problem because that means that I can not add any functionality o feature to that device

The only solution to have the package manager back on business is to upgrade to 20.02 but, obviously and as @jwj says is not the more inteligent thing to do to just upgrade in a production environment

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bmeeks

@juanpadiaz said in To 2.5.0 or not ? that is the question :):

@bmeeks Not a problem bmeeks, first devices with 2.4.5_p1 on production cant download or install packages from the package manager, i mean devices with any pfsense version upgrade I have many of them, these problem is a pretty big problem because that means that I can not add any functionality o feature to that device

The only solution to have the package manager back on business is to upgrade to 20.02 but, obviously and as @jwj says is not the more inteligent thing to do to just upgrade in a production environment

But I still need to know if you went to SYSTEM > UPDATE SETTINGS and changed the pfSense repository version to "Previous Stable Version (2.4.5 deprecated)". That is very critical! And you must have done that before trying to install or update any packages.

Changing that setting works on Community Edition (CE) pfSense. I assume it works in pfSense+ (the old Factory Edition), but I'm not 100% positive.

juanpadiaz

@bmeeks excellent many thanks, let me try that

bmeeks

@juanpadiaz said in To 2.5.0 or not ? that is the question :):

@bmeeks excellent many thanks, let me try that

But if you did not change that setting first, and attempted any package install or upgrade, then it would have corrupted the pkg utility on your firewall so it will no longer function under 2.4.5. I'm wondering if that is what has happened to you as the screenshot you posted of "Please wait ....." would only happen if the pkg utility got corrupted. Or that is the most likely cause of that error.

chpalmer

edit- This post was actually meant as a reply to the OP and in general. Not to you Juan..

Please read the "upgrade notes" about half way down on this page before trying to upgrade to 2.5

https://www.netgate.com/blog/pfsense-plus-21-02-release-and-pfsense-ce-2-5-0-release-now-available.html

We have only 14 boxes out there ourselves and only one had issues OpenVPN config related.. With only 14 boxes we still have a test box in a lab setting to run things on first before any major upgrades. Kinda surprises me that people with more units out there than we do choose not to test first.. But I digress.

juanpadiaz

@bmeeks Many thanks, the package manager back to work!