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    Rule to block sending email through port 25 which is not secure.

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    • johnpozJ Offline
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Guest
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      If pfsense is behind a nat router, which it sounds like it is.. Then there would be NOTHING open to pfsense that you did not forward to it from your router in front of pfsense.

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        @johnpoz That is?
        can you explain me better I have difficulty with the language .....
        but is there a method to see open or closed tcp / udp ports on pfsense? Thank you

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          Out of the box there is NOTHING open inbound from the wan side.. NOTHING.. Unless you created port forwards.. All inbound unsolicited traffic to your wan would be dropped.. Even pings.

          To go along with that is seems like you have a nat router in front of pfsense, that would normally being doing exactly the same thing.. So unless you setup port forwards to pfsense wan IP on that router, nothing would even get past your other router in front of pfsense for pfsense to even do anything with..

          A simple test tool to see what is open would just go to the shield up on grc.com This will scan first 1056 ports or something..

          Look on pfsense wan interface rules - do you have anything allowed? If not then nothing is open..

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            @johnpoz OK! I got it.
            a question but pfsense automatically blocks port 25 or should I block it with the rule?

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Guest
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              Out of the box all OUTBOUND traffic from your lan is allowed.. So if you want to block 25 outbound from some client on your lan.. Then yes you would need to block it.. As to should you - what client in this day an age would be sending email via 25, vs some spam infection??

              I am not aware of any current email client that would send outgoing mail to its mail server via 25..

              Do you have some email server behind pfsense that sends email? To other domains - if so then you would need 25 open..

              Personally before I went and started blocking outbound traffic - unless you want people screaming at you that xyz broke. I would would log on your allow rule - so you get an idea of what ports your clients and applications behind pfsense are using.. You can track those down and figure out if that is something you want to continue to allow or not.

              Shoot for most ISPs - they don't even allow outbound on 25 ;) Because unless your on a business line and have need, there would never be a need to send traffic out on 25 other than spam..

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                A Former User @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz Ok thanks for letting me understand how the rules work, now I have clear ideas :-)

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                • GertjanG Offline
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                  @antonio-briguglio said in Rule to block sending email through port 25 which is not secure.:

                  pfsense automatically blocks port 25

                  Added to what @johnpoz said :

                  Port 25 is reserved for mail server to mail server communication only.
                  I know, some very stupid ISP's, last century, had other ideas. Like : have mail clients send mail without authentication .... We all know what happened next.

                  Mail clients on your LAN, like Outlook 365 or Thunderbird or even pfSense itself (mail notification System > Advanced > Notifications) should use 587 TCP or 465 TCP.
                  " No firewall rule needed".

                  No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                  Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                  • bingo600B Offline
                    bingo600
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                    I only have port 25 forwarded to my mailserver.
                    I have no problems sending & receiving w. encryption to/from other mailservers

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                      dotdash @bingo600
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                      @bingo600
                      That's inbound, to your mailserver. OP was talking about outbound traffic from clients on the LAN, who shouldn't be using port 25.

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                        @dotdash @gertjan @bingo600 That is? Is the rule you wrote me wrong? I did not understand the discussion well. Thank you

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Guest
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                          If you want to stop devices from talking outbound on 25.. Then put in a rule.. Simple enough..

                          Here
                          block25.png

                          I would set it to log - and so you can see who is trying to do that.. Since unless you have some box infected trying to send spam - you should never see that rule even trigger.

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                            @johnpoz OK thank you very much šŸ‘ 😊

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