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    Wan iPerf UDP max out tcp isnt even .5% of throughput

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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      It was dropping 1% packets at 2Gbps target?

      Can we see that result?

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        techanalyst @stephenw10
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        @stephenw10 Again thats a udp test, oddly even faster now, but UDP isnt a perfect example

        intesting is that its a GPON terminating on an XG16, XG is connected to a 3850 stack over an lacp trunk, then the pfsense box connects and does vlans on the 3850 for everything.

        In this case, I expect dropped packets for UDP as its going nuts

        TCP, I never have dropped packets, but as I said, VERY limiting speeds, its a PPPOE

        [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Total Datagrams
        [ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 335 MBytes 2.81 Gbits/sec 42920
        [ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 413 MBytes 3.46 Gbits/sec 52810
        [ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 445 MBytes 3.73 Gbits/sec 56950
        [ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 464 MBytes 3.89 Gbits/sec 59340
        [ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 462 MBytes 3.88 Gbits/sec 59170
        [ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 467 MBytes 3.91 Gbits/sec 59720
        [ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 483 MBytes 4.05 Gbits/sec 61830
        [ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 491 MBytes 4.12 Gbits/sec 62910
        [ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 504 MBytes 4.23 Gbits/sec 64510
        [ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 493 MBytes 4.13 Gbits/sec 63050


        [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth Jitter Lost/Total Datagrams
        [ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 4.45 GBytes 3.82 Gbits/sec 0.098 ms 581070/581783 (1e+02%)
        [ 4] Sent 581783 datagrams

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          techanalyst @stephenw10
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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            @techanalyst said in Wan iPerf UDP max out tcp isnt even .5% of throughput:

            Lost/Total Datagrams
            581070/581783

            You realise that's showing it lost 581070 packets?

            It is losing 99.8% of packets at 2Gbps. Something on that connection is very broken!

            Given that the TCP throughput is quite good.

            Steve

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              techanalyst @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in Wan iPerf UDP max out tcp isnt even .5% of throughput:

              You realise that's showing it lost 581070 packets?
              It is losing 99.8% of packets at 2Gbps. Something on that connection is very broken!
              Given that the TCP throughput is quite good.

              So thats a 2.5GPON, the speeds are roughly 1700 down and 1000 up

              thats why I said UDP test which shows all this is kinda useless

              So these throughput iperfs are UDP.....TCP iperf is absolute trash

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10

                Ok, so run a UDP test at 500Mbps and see what packet loss you get then. It should be close to zero of the connection is good.
                Hard to imagine it will be though when you have nearly 100% loss at 2Gbps

                Steve

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                  techanalyst @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 said in Wan iPerf UDP max out tcp isnt even .5% of throughput:

                  Ok, so run a UDP test at 500Mbps and see what packet loss you get then. It should be close to zero of the connection is good.
                  Hard to imagine it will be though when you have nearly 100% loss at 2Gbps

                  Oddly enough from an Enterprise line to myself packet drops stop at 109Mbit :( thats kinda crappy

                  So you feels its ISP related?

                  **[ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 346 MBytes 2.90 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 419 MBytes 3.52 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 419 MBytes 3.52 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 399 MBytes 3.35 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 412 MBytes 3.46 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 418 MBytes 3.51 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 420 MBytes 3.52 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 420 MBytes 3.52 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 405 MBytes 3.40 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 415 MBytes 3.48 Gbits/sec


                  [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
                  [ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 3.98 GBytes 3.42 Gbits/sec sender
                  [ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 3.98 GBytes 3.42 Gbits/sec receiver
                  **

                  Internally it seems both an x540 and x550 is kinda slow

                  My workstation or servers to each other usually work perfectr

                  [ 4] 0.00-1.00 sec 1.05 GBytes 8.99 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 1.00-2.00 sec 1.04 GBytes 8.95 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 2.00-3.00 sec 1.05 GBytes 9.01 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 3.00-4.00 sec 1.05 GBytes 9.04 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 4.00-5.00 sec 1.05 GBytes 9.01 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 5.00-6.00 sec 1.05 GBytes 9.00 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 6.00-7.00 sec 1.05 GBytes 9.01 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 7.00-8.00 sec 1.04 GBytes 8.94 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 8.00-9.00 sec 1.05 GBytes 9.05 Gbits/sec
                  [ 4] 9.00-10.00 sec 1.04 GBytes 8.96 Gbits/sec


                  [ ID] Interval Transfer Bandwidth
                  [ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 10.5 GBytes 9.00 Gbits/sec sender
                  [ 4] 0.00-10.00 sec 10.5 GBytes 9.00 Gbits/sec receiver

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by stephenw10

                    Well from the results you've posted you see to have massive packet loss on the connection.

                    Nothing we can do about that in pfSense other than limit the speed to something bellow the loss level. Which is not a great solution!

                    Can we see the output from a UDP test just about that threshold? Say 150Mbps.

                    Do you see loss if you run the test reversed? (-R)

                    Steve

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                      techanalyst @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 my speed tests are over 1700/1000, i dont see value in lowering the throughput when it seems to be specific to locations

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                        Because you are seeing almost 100% packet loss at anywhere close to those speeds.

                        Either you're testing completely wrong or the connection is very broken.

                        If it's the later knowing what value the packet loss seems to kick in at is useful.

                        Steve

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