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    Connecting two SG-1100's for Production and Lab

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      bobbenheim @csfshore
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      @csfshore If you change your LAN to 192.168.100.1/24 then you should be good to go, assuming nothing is a typo on the picture.
      Other than that you might need to check if you have some boxes ticked in Interfaces > WAN Reserved Networks (scroll to bottom)

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        csfshore @bobbenheim
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        @bobbenheim Thanks for reply,
        Damn - no that's a typo.
        It should be 192.168.100.1/24!

        However, (I'm pretty sure) that's where I started
        with and it didn't work and was suggested that
        a static route was needed.

        Do I need a gateway on the LAB WAN SG-1100?
        I'm a little cross eyed at this point and have deleted
        so many gateways and static routes, I don't know
        what "default" should look like. Thanks

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          bobbenheim @csfshore
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          Have you unticked Block private networks and loopback addresses in Interfaces > WAN?

          a2f03d2f-8202-4d4e-b3ba-2bbc6c7dbc92-image.png

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            csfshore @bobbenheim
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            @bobbenheim
            Yes, that is unticked. I am at a point now
            where I can ping external addresses numerically
            and ping them by name, but I get no web traffic.

            Nothing comes up in browser.....

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              csfshore @csfshore
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              @csfshore

              Should I be doing something to the firewall??

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                bobbenheim @csfshore
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                @csfshore So you are able to ping IP addresses like 8.8.8.8 from hosts on your lab LAN?

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                  csfshore @bobbenheim
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                  @bobbenheim Yes, I am able to ping external ip addresses
                  numerically, and external sites by name (www.apple.com, etc.)

                  When I try www.apple.com (any external site) in browser, it just hangs

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                    bobbenheim @csfshore
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                    @csfshore Only rules needed would be allow all to any on OPT and of course NAT, which should already be present at your LAB SG-1100 by default.
                    Assuming you are using Windows have you checked something isn't blocked in the Windows firewall?

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                      csfshore @bobbenheim
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                      @bobbenheim On a Mac, but firewall is not turned on.

                      My thinking is that I need a static route, as the ICMP (ping) stuff goes through, but the higher level TCP/UDP doesn't

                      Does that make sense?

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                        bobbenheim @csfshore
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                        @csfshore If you can ping external addresses then you have a route outside your network, if you can resolve FQDN (DNS) then you got UDP working. How does your rules on OPT and on your LAB SG-1100 looks like?

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                          csfshore @bobbenheim
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                          @bobbenheim Only 1 rule on OPT (upstream SG-1100)
                          "Default allow OPT to any rule"

                          Downstream LAB LAN "Anti-Lock out rule" and
                          "Default allow LAN to any rule"

                          I DO have a gateway in the downstream LAB SG-1100
                          which is set to the address of the downstream WAN port

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                            bobbenheim @csfshore
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                            @csfshore You can try and do a packet capture on OPT and WAN in your LAB and see if anything gets through when your trying to access the WWW.

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                              csfshore @bobbenheim
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                              @bobbenheim OK thanks, that might be above my skill level, but I have been working my way through this and learning a lot. Appreciate your help. I know I could just
                              plug in a switch. :-)

                              Let me ask this another way, should this work?
                              Is what I am doing so bizarre and specialized that
                              I am pushing the boundaries of networking?

                              Perhaps rather than trying to troubleshoot, how would
                              this be set up with two out of the boxes SG-1100s?

                              I have no issue with starting "fresh"

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                                bobbenheim @csfshore
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                                @csfshore It should be possible and i have done it before, when i have tested some equipment, just not with two PFSense units but that shouldn't make a difference.
                                Doing double NAT is just another problem to deal with and is easier just to avoid. If you have connectivity on your Production LAN you could reset your LAB unit and connect it to LAN instead of OPT to rule out miss configuration on your Production unit.

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                                  csfshore @bobbenheim
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                                  @bobbenheim OK let me try that. The fact that I can connect directly to OPT and browse, suggests to me
                                  that the issue is within the LAB box.

                                  FWIW I did run packet trace and looked at logs, and
                                  while I am not exactly clear what I am looking at I see nothing out of the ordinary but this:

                                  /interfaces.php: Gateway, none 'available' for inet, use the first one configured. 'WAN_DHCP'

                                  In looking through forums, that doesn't seem like a stopper
                                  as it is not pervasive, just a few entries.

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                                    bobbenheim @csfshore
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                                    @csfshore How are you configuring IP on WAN at LAB, static or DHCP?

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                                      csfshore @bobbenheim
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                                      @bobbenheim Static

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                                        csfshore @csfshore
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                                        @csfshore lol. Well while I can't help but think I have missed something very simple, and I appreciate the help, but I am out of ideas.

                                        I dl the .iso and installed on a NUC. Same thing. I can ping
                                        by name and numerically from the downstream LAN.

                                        I can browse externally using the upstream WAN cable (no connection to PfSense)

                                        BUT when I am connected to downstream LAN, cannot
                                        browse. Time for a switch!

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                                          bobbenheim @csfshore
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                                          @csfshore Can you show a screenshot of your LAB WAN Static IPv4 Configuration

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                                            csfshore @bobbenheim
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                                            @bobbenheim Sure. However, as I biffed the drawing above, thought I would change IPs, just to ensure I'm on the right one.

                                            To level set:
                                            Upstream SG-1100 OPT (192.168.48.1) is connected to
                                            NUC LAB WAN (192.168.48.2 OR DHCP) LAB LAN is 192.168.55.1

                                            When I use STATIC (as included) I am unable to ping EXTERNAL from LAB, when I use DHCP I am able to ping numerically and by name.

                                            LAB.WAN.Interface.jpg

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