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      CyberDude6 @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10

      I ended up just leaving the SG3100 there and came back a few hours later. It ended up stopping that nonsense and went to the normal menu to do all the usual things. Was able to factory restore there and it is working well now!

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        amarcino
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        I use both PF Blocker and Suricata, so I am going to wait on this update.

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          Luketa @amarcino
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          @amarcino I'm in the same situation.
          because of things, I think I will stay for a long time in 2.4.5

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            The PHP issue, which is what you will be hitting with pfBlocker and Suricata, seems to be very load dependent.
            I have both those running here on SG-3100s in 21.02p1 without any problems. The throughput on the those is not huge and I don't have a large number of lists loaded though.

            Steve

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              mcury @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 said in pfSense Plus and SG-3100:

              The PHP issue, which is what you will be hitting with pfBlocker and Suricata, seems to be very load dependent.
              I have both those running here on SG-3100s in 21.02p1 without any problems. The throughput on the those is not huge and I don't have a large number of lists loaded though.

              Steve

              Hello Steve, if you install pfblockerng, run the wizard, and reboot, you get:

              done.
              Configuring firewall.
              pflog0: promiscuous mode enabled
              pid 401 (php-cgi), jid 0, uid 0: exited on signal 11 (core dumped)
              Segmentation fault (core dumped)
              Starting CRON... done.
               Starting package IPsec Profile Wizard...done.
               Starting package AWS VPC Wizard...done.
               Starting package acme...done.
              

              Nothing works, to recover access, you need, through the console, select the option 11, disable pfblockerng and reboot again.

              dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Hmm, interesting. I aleady had it installed before the upgrade. And the wizard is only in the development version which I'm not running on that firewall.
                Are you able to install the non-dev version?

                Steve

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                  mcury @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 said in pfSense Plus and SG-3100:

                  Hmm, interesting. I aleady had it installed before the upgrade. And the wizard is only in the development version which I'm not running on that firewall.
                  Are you able to install the non-dev version?

                  Steve

                  Yes, I can do it right now to confirm, but, as I have been reading everything about this lately, I already found reports from users with the same problem using the non-dev version.

                  f7609d69-bb01-4f4e-ba50-ebaf2e439c5e-image.png

                  Installed pfblockerng non-dev, enabled it, I'll wait for the update, then reboot, updates soon.

                  dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                    It certainly can hit that same issue in the non-dev version if you have a lot of lists loaded triggering the issue when php tries to parse them.

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                      mcury @stephenw10
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                      @stephenw10 said in pfSense Plus and SG-3100:

                      It certainly can hit that same issue in the non-dev version if you have a lot of lists loaded triggering the issue when php tries to parse them.

                      Same lists that I used to have in 2.4.5p1, are failing with 21.02, and 21.02p1.
                      I usually just run pfblockerng defaults settings to test, and it fails to boot..

                      dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                        mcury @mcury
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                        bebdd0f5-dbe6-4dc7-aecc-5ab5e8b1e69e-image.png

                        non-dev version, default settings.

                        dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Hmm, what are you actually enabling there? The non-dev version doesn't have a wizard to set defaults. I may have disabled some things on my install. I don't use the auto-added firewall rules.

                          Steve

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                            mcury @stephenw10
                            last edited by

                            @stephenw10 said in pfSense Plus and SG-3100:

                            Hmm, what are you actually enabling there? The non-dev version doesn't have a wizard to set defaults. I may have disabled some things on my install. I don't use the auto-added firewall rules.

                            Steve

                            Default settings, just install it, wait for the update, or force it, then reboot..

                            dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by

                              By default it is not enabled at all so I assume you enable it?

                              There are no lists enabled by default either so I assume you added some? Or it pulled in values you already had?

                              Steve

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                                mcury @stephenw10
                                last edited by

                                @stephenw10 said in pfSense Plus and SG-3100:

                                By default it is not enabled at all so I assume you enable it?

                                There are no lists enabled by default either so I assume you added some? Or it pulled in values you already had?

                                Steve

                                Enabled pfblockerng, wait for the update.
                                There are lists enabled by default, didn't add anything.

                                Just install, enabled it, update it, and reboot, and the bug happens.
                                Same bug that was happening with 21.02, and this never happened with 2.4.5p1.

                                dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  There are no lists enabled by default so it must be using lists you have in your config already. What lists do you enabled there?

                                  ON the box I have running it without issues I have it installed mostly for ad-blocking. This is what updating looks like:

                                   UPDATE PROCESS START [ 03/12/21 15:05:39 ]
                                  
                                  ===[  DNSBL Process  ]================================================
                                  
                                  [ Easylist_Default ]	 Reload . completed ..
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                    Orig.    Unique     # Dups     # White    # Alexa    Final                
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                    17258    16569      0          0          0          16569                
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  
                                  [ Easylist_Privacy ]	 Reload [ 03/12/21 15:05:40 ] . completed ..
                                    Whitelist: amazonaws.com|
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                    Orig.    Unique     # Dups     # White    # Alexa    Final                
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                    4381     4355       59         1          0          4295                 
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  
                                  [ Custom_List_custom ]	 Reload [ 03/12/21 15:05:41 ].
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                    Orig.    Unique     # Dups     # White    # Alexa    Final                
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                    7        7          0          0          0          7                    
                                    ----------------------------------------------------------------------
                                  
                                  ------------------------------------------
                                  Assembling database... completed
                                  Executing TLD
                                  TLD analysis. completed
                                  Finalizing TLD...  completed
                                   ----------------------------------------
                                   Original    Matches    Removed    Final     
                                   ----------------------------------------
                                   20871       20748      34         20837     
                                   -----------------------------------------
                                  Validating database... completed [ 03/12/21 15:05:47 ]
                                  Reloading Unbound.... completed
                                  DNSBL update [ 20837 | PASSED  ]... completed [ 03/12/21 15:05:49 ]
                                  ------------------------------------------
                                  
                                  ===[  Continent Process  ]============================================
                                  
                                  
                                  ===[  IPv4 Process  ]=================================================
                                  
                                  [ Spamhaus_drop ]	 Reload . completed ..
                                  
                                  [ Google ]		 Reload . completed ..
                                  
                                  [ Facebook ]		 Reload . completed ..
                                  
                                  [ Netflix ]		 Reload . completed ..
                                  
                                  
                                  ===[  IPv6 Process  ]=================================================
                                  
                                  
                                  ===[  Aliastables / Rules  ]==========================================
                                  
                                  No changes to Firewall rules, skipping Filter Reload
                                  
                                   Updating: pfB_Spamhaus
                                  no changes.
                                   Updating: pfB_ASN_List
                                  no changes.
                                  
                                  
                                  Archiving Aliastable folder
                                  
                                  
                                  Archiving selected pfBlockerNG files.
                                  
                                  ===[ FINAL Processing ]=====================================
                                  
                                     [ Original IP count   ]  [ 8570 ]
                                  
                                  ===[ Native List IP Counts ] ===================================
                                  
                                      8566 total
                                      7375 /var/db/pfblockerng/native/Google.txt
                                       956 /var/db/pfblockerng/native/Spamhaus_drop.txt
                                       182 /var/db/pfblockerng/native/Facebook.txt
                                        53 /var/db/pfblockerng/native/Netflix.txt
                                  
                                  ===[ DNSBL Domain/IP Counts ] ===================================
                                  
                                     20837 total
                                     16538 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Easylist_Default.txt
                                      4293 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Easylist_Privacy.txt
                                         6 /var/db/pfblockerng/dnsbl/Custom_List_custom.txt
                                  
                                  ====================[ Last Updated List Summary ]==============
                                  
                                  Feb 25	19:01	Spamhaus_drop
                                  Feb 27	00:00	Google
                                  Feb 27	00:00	Facebook
                                  Feb 27	00:00	Netflix
                                  
                                  IPv4 alias tables IP count
                                  -----------------------------
                                  8566
                                  
                                  IPv6 alias tables IP count
                                  -----------------------------
                                  0
                                  
                                  Alias table IP Counts
                                  -----------------------------
                                      8566 total
                                      7610 /var/db/aliastables/pfB_ASN_List.txt
                                       956 /var/db/aliastables/pfB_Spamhaus.txt
                                  
                                  pfSense Table Stats
                                  -------------------
                                  table-entries hard limit  1000000
                                  Table Usage Count         11310
                                  
                                   UPDATE PROCESS ENDED [ 03/12/21 15:05:57 ]
                                  

                                  Steve

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                                    mcury @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10 Tick the option to enable pfblockerng, and update, there are lists by default, you don't need a wizard.
                                    This will create an alias for a firewall rule in LAN with malicious IPs and etc, and that causes the problem during the boot.

                                    dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes, I did that on another test box that has never had pfBlocker installed and there are no default lists.

                                       UPDATE PROCESS START [ 03/12/21 15:20:15 ]
                                      
                                      Clearing all DNSBL Feeds... 
                                      ** DNSBL Disabled **
                                      
                                      
                                      ===[  Continent Process  ]============================================
                                      
                                      
                                      ===[  Aliastables / Rules  ]==========================================
                                      
                                      No changes to Firewall rules, skipping Filter Reload
                                      No Changes to Aliases, Skipping pfctl Update
                                      
                                       UPDATE PROCESS ENDED
                                      

                                      So if you are seeing lists it's because they already exist on your config and pfBlocker is using them.

                                      What lists do you see?

                                      Steve

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                                        SteveITS Galactic Empire @mcury
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                                        The PHP dump has been replicated at the command line: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/11466#note-21

                                        Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                                        When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
                                        Upvote šŸ‘ helpful posts!

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                                          mcury @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 said in pfSense Plus and SG-3100:

                                          Yes, I did that on another test box that has never had pfBlocker installed and there are no default lists.

                                           UPDATE PROCESS START [ 03/12/21 15:20:15 ]
                                          
                                          Clearing all DNSBL Feeds... 
                                          ** DNSBL Disabled **
                                          
                                          
                                          ===[  Continent Process  ]============================================
                                          
                                          
                                          ===[  Aliastables / Rules  ]==========================================
                                          
                                          No changes to Firewall rules, skipping Filter Reload
                                          No Changes to Aliases, Skipping pfctl Update
                                          
                                           UPDATE PROCESS ENDED
                                          

                                          So if you are seeing lists it's because they already exist on your config and pfBlocker is using them.

                                          What lists do you see?

                                          Steve

                                          If that is the case, the same lists that pfblockerng 3.0.0_15 has, because it was the last pfblockerng version installed.

                                          dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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                                            mcury @SteveITS
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                                            @teamits found another way to trigger it.. not sure if it's the same problem, but try:

                                            ssh to pfsense and type:
                                            gpioctl 2 0

                                            dead on arrival, nowhere to be found.

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