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    To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :)

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      cellobita
      last edited by

      PS: I do fervently hope, since this is most likely the exact same issue as on the Plus version, that Netgate issues an emergency patch/version ASAP (2.5.1-p1 or something...)

      Marcello Marques
      Santos - SP - Brazil

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        vjizzle
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        Ok maybe unrelated but my pfSense suddenly stopped NAT-ing new sessions. For example my Citrix session to work was running fine but when I tried opening websites for the first time today I was not able to open them. DNS was resolving them fine. Restarting Unbound did not solve it. I had to reboot the firewall to make everything work again. Tonight I am definitely going back to 2.5 :(

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          cellobita @vjizzle
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          @vjizzle Good luck.

          I'm not the kind of consumer that Netgate wants or needs, as of 2021, so they couldn't care less about what follows, but anyway:

          This is the first time in over ten years - since switching all my customers from IPCop - that I'm looking closely at the alternatives for pfSense. Sad.

          Marcello Marques
          Santos - SP - Brazil

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            Dredex @cellobita
            last edited by

            Forgot to backup on 2.5.0 and I'm stuck on 2.5.1 with this problem...
            I hope on a workaround until they release a fix.

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              Qinn @Dredex
              last edited by Qinn

              @dredex If it is that important you could download 2.5.0 from
              https://atxfiles.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/

              or

              https://nyifiles.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/ Before installing I would

              check the hashes https://nyifiles.pfsense.org/mirror/downloads/ or find
              some University site that has them of course all on you own risk.

              Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
              Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
              Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                Dredex @Qinn
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                @qinn Thanks but I don't have a backup config from 2.5.0

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                  Qinn
                  last edited by

                  You can use the current config from 2.5.1 never had trouble using a config file among versions.

                  Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                  Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                  Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                    Waqar.UK @Qinn
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                    @qinn

                    So I some time ago installed 2.4.5.
                    This was upgraded to 2.5 and then to 2.5.1.
                    I have a firmware of 2.4.5 that I downloaded from my web GUI when I installed it.
                    If I use this 2.4.5 firmware on my 2.5.1 current box, will I still be able to use 2.5.1?

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                      SteveITS Rebel Alliance @Waqar.UK
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                      @bismarck said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                      Root mount waiting for: CAM

                      That message shows in dmesg on 2.5.0 as well so it's not new in 2.5.1.

                      @waqar-uk said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                      I have a firmware of 2.4.5 that I downloaded from my web GUI when I installed it.
                      If I use this 2.4.5 firmware on my 2.5.1 current box, will I still be able to use 2.5.1?

                      By "downloaded from my web GUI" do you mean you downloaded the 2.4.5 .iso file from Netgate? Or saved a configuration backup (.xml file)? You can always install whatever version software you want, and restore a configuration backup. You will be able to upgrade again in the future.

                      Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                      When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to reboot, or more depending on packages, and device or disk speed.
                      Upvote ๐Ÿ‘ helpful posts!

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                        Bismarck @SteveITS
                        last edited by

                        @steveits New at least for me, was that the root partition was gone and this error message was looping on the screen for ever.

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                          Tzvia
                          last edited by Tzvia

                          As I was affected by the IPV6 gateway bug that also affected the floating IPV6 rules as you couldn't specify the gateway, I had updated to the RC about a week ago. I was too nervous about using a RC build to do so earlier but finally figured, it was probably less buggy than 2.50. So now I see the 2.51... I DO have a 2.45 installer and a 2.50, along with configuration backups and will probably go back to 2.45 if 2.51 is a dud... So I just went 'what the heck' and clicked update... Watched the update process in the GUI, and the reboot went off without any issues. Logged back in, and remembered to be patient and let it reinstall packages/restart services. Waited and watched on the Dashboard. I'm running Snort, PFBlocker, Service Watchdog and OpenVPN Client Export. Everything came back up in less than 2 minutes. Checked the logs, looks ok so far. My setup is lan and two vlans, one wan.

                          Tzvia

                          Current build:
                          Hunsn/CWWK Pentium Gold 8505, 6x i226v 'micro firewall'
                          16 gigs ram
                          500gig WD Blue nvme
                          Using modded BIOS (enabled CSTATES)
                          PFSense 2.72-RELEASE
                          Enabled Intel SpeedShift
                          Snort
                          PFBlockerNG
                          LAN and 5 VLANS

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                            vjizzle
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                            So I did get to nuke my 2.5.1 install tonight. I was also experiencing stability issues with it so I just stopped troubleshooting. Got fed up with 2.5.1.

                            Anyway, I did a clean install of 2.5, restored my 2.5 config and waited for all the packages to install. I am using pfBlockerNG, Suricata (only on a DMZ interface), OpenVPN client export and Service Watchdog (because Unbound is randomly crashing on 2.5). After that I went to check if port forwarding is working on my OpenVPN interface...and BINGO! Port forward on OpenVPN interfaces is working fine again!

                            I recommend to stay away from 2.5.1. I know I am using the CE edition and maybe I complain too much but if Netgate's own hardware would be more stable and everything working fine, I would gladly spend the money and buy it since this troubleshooting is costing me a lot of time. But seeing how unstable pfSense 2.5 and 2.5.1 is on Netgate's own hardware got me seriously considering other options. For now I need to take a break from this headache and will let it run 2.5 since this is the version which ran fine for days without issues. 2.4.5 p1 ran amazingly fine as well but going back to that older version now means to deal with packages which are "old" as well. Too much of a hassle this :(

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                              buggz
                              last edited by buggz

                              Went from 2.5.0 single disk ZFS to 2.5.1 this AM.
                              No problems that I am aware of.

                              However, my LAN Traffic Graph is STILL blank, that happened when going to 2.50, sigh...

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                                buggz @vjizzle
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                                @vjizzle said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                                @bismarck Same here. I can see the same CAM messages but system boots fine.

                                I see these also.
                                I did not know this was happening, so I may have had these messages in 2.5.0 also?
                                Dunno...

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                                  Cool_Corona @buggz
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                                  @buggz CAM is also in 2.5.0

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                                    Waqar.UK @SteveITS
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                                    @steveits said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                                    @bismarck said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                                    Root mount waiting for: CAM

                                    That message shows in dmesg on 2.5.0 as well so it's not new in 2.5.1.

                                    @waqar-uk said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                                    I have a firmware of 2.4.5 that I downloaded from my web GUI when I installed it.
                                    If I use this 2.4.5 firmware on my 2.5.1 current box, will I still be able to use 2.5.1?

                                    By "downloaded from my web GUI" do you mean you downloaded the 2.4.5 .iso file from Netgate? Or saved a configuration backup (.xml file)? You can always install whatever version software you want, and restore a configuration backup. You will be able to upgrade again in the future.

                                    OK, thanks.

                                    I just want to know if my untouched firmware ver 2.4.5 can be used to the latest package 2.5.1?

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                                      MoonKnight @Cool_Corona
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                                      @cool_corona said in To 2.5.1 or not ? that is the question :):

                                      @buggz CAM is also in 2.5.0

                                      Hi, that CAM message is just an scrip that is trying to start your WebCam on your computer/devices.
                                      So be aware that going to try to take a picture of you, make sure you have your clothes on. My suggestion is that you should disconnect your webcam ๐Ÿ˜† ๐Ÿ˜†

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                                      Kingston DDR4 2666MHz 16GB ECC
                                      2 x HyperX Fury SSD 120GB (ZFS-mirror)
                                      2 x Intel i210 (ports)
                                      4 x Intel i350 (ports)

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                                        Cool_Corona @MoonKnight
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                                        @ciscox HAHAHAHA Yeah.... I better. That would scare the shit out of almost anybody if they were aware of whats going on here

                                        HAHAHA

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                                          itpp21 @Cool_Corona
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                                          An interesting question (for me at least) is 2.4.5-RELEASE-p1 still secure or are there reasons we 'have' to upgrade?
                                          CERT-US has listed at least 8 vulnerabilities with FreeBSD 11.* which could be related to a pfSense-repo upgrade: 2.4.5_10 -> 2.4.5_12
                                          Anyone any comments?

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                                            vjizzle @itpp21
                                            last edited by vjizzle

                                            @itpp21 Yes I would like to know this as well. 2.4.5 p1 was running smooth and I had months of uptime there without any hiccups. I like my firewall to be boring.

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