2.5.1 upgrade have no internet now yet reports i do

[NollipfSense]

@comet424 I suggest that you do a clean install of pfSense 2.5.1 then restore your configurations form backup.

[comet424]

@nollipfsense
so whip it and then restore the backup

it was working the internet but then it would also go down internet was lasting 5 min then gone..

so a factory reset is not the same as a clean install then?
as its getting frustrating

[comet424]

@nollipfsense
didnt work.. importing the config file still has the reduced WAN options
still says i have internet.. but nothing going through my WAN or VPN's yet it says it is..

its almost like 2.5.1 doesnt have all the entities for import or they renamed things
as i clean install of 2.5.1 has the WAN options for ip4 yet if you import it looses them its almost like they renamed things and importiting from 2.4 to 2.5 doesnt work

so do i just slowly import 1 config option at a time

or do i try to get back to 2.4 and wait till all these issues fixed in 2.5.2?

[comet424]

so i found a copy on one of my laptops of 2.4.3 that i running again
and under WAN ip4v all the options there

but you cant transition from 2.43 to 2.51

i thinking maybe 2.51 has spelling errors maybe thats why its not working right
like
in 2.43 it could be WAN ip4v DHCP is labled DHCP
but maybe in 2.51 WAN ip5v DHCP is labeled DHCPx
and it cant copy over as it cant read DHCP from the file it needs to be x
maybe thats why its not working right for me and others.. as
if you do a clean install of 2.5.1. under WAN ip4v all the options there same as 2.4.3 but when it imports it erasses options
like it cant read the import file right or errors or something

but ya i tried several times installing 2.51 from scratch and import my config from 2.4.3 it will not work

so ill stick with 2.43 and maybe in 2.52 they fix ip4v issues and the PPPOE issues i having

and i tried importing 1 option at a time it doesnt work the console buggers up on VLANS so i shouldnt chose that option..

[NollipfSense]

@comet424 It sounds like your version 2.4 is corrupted ... have you tried a clean install of 2.5.1 then restore the configuration you have on your laptop? The only other option is to do a clean install and configure from scratch.

[comet424]

@nollipfsense i did what you said in your previous message i did all that
so i spent till about 2am to get back up i spent the better day trying to load it up

so like i mentioned about

1. installed 2.5.1 on a usb
2. then installed 2.5.1 on the computer.
3. i then configure and then restored using my 2.4 file
   then it restores internet like i mentioned but is flaky or never works.
   you also dont get a DHCP none or static show up like in the picture.s so it doesnt transistion right..

i found i had a 2.4.3 version on my laptop but i did the configuration file from 2.4.5 so when i restored teh config file it restored everything it seems minus Package manager

so i currently trying to upgrade back to 2.4.5

but what i was doing yesterday.. was
in 2.5.1
load up configuration file.. and restore one option at a time. to see if it would work better.. as doing ALL failed and it doesnt let you delete WAN port in pfsense you can delete everything else

update: i cant seem to update from 2.4.3. to 2.4.5 it keeps crapping out i wonder if they removed it.. so i trying to find a download of 2.4.5

but ya i spent better part of the day trying to get internet to work on 2.5.1 it

i can ping from pfsense but i cant ping out from any computer on the network yet it says internet is up and working but its not

and if i delete my log in and password for the PPPOe and then put it back.. it wont allow me to login.. it will keep the internet connection down.. it only comes back up when you restore the config file..

so as a home user its frustrating as its the only router i have... i dont really have a backup and i not fluent in this stuff like you guys use it for work every day.. it gets frustrating ..

im sure there is better way... ill try again a new install and 1 restore area at a time.. i wanted to make sure i up to date.. but i just having bad luck i guess

[NollipfSense]

@comet424 Most of us here are home users also ... we all went through scenario like you what you're experiencing. Be patience with yourself.

[comet424]

@nollipfsense ah ok..
ya so i figure i just trying to get back to 2.4.5 least its working
cuz its frustrating

how did u guys solve it.. or there is no solution yet.. just wait for a new release.

i skipped 2.5.0 because of the issues people had so i i figured 2.5.1 came out so i figured the issues would been resolved
as i also have a few vpns setup and my site to site openvpn broken too.. and ssince ,my 2.4.5 config openvpn settings doesnt work on 2.4.3 so trying to get back to to 2.4.5 at moment
always something lol
my router was up for 212 days without a reboot and i rebooted more times to try to get latesty version running lol

always something eh

[comet424]

i guess it be a good idea to have 2 SSDS 1 is the main one.. and the 2nd one be a copy of main you try the latest version on this way if it breaks i not down all day i can just plug ssd back in..

always learning new something everyday

oh and i got 2.4.5 re installed i found a link to re download it..
i loaded up my config file and no issues now back on 2.4.5
and my site to siteopen vpn is back up and working again..

i think i best get 2nd ssd lol

only problem i having getting restoring 2.4.5
package mangeer craps out says no internet and it aborts.. and there is no way to important it under backup restory under package manager restore

doesnt let you and my package manager shows no packages.. so maybe it was corrupt for a while that section

you dont happen to know how to fix the package manager..
i cant restore nothing
under availabe packages i get this error
Unable to retrieve package information.

and i cant restore it from the backup restore page.. how do i restore it?

[NollipfSense]

@comet424 Honestly, I don't think anyone would encourage you to go to a version that's technically obsolete ... you'll that you will gain a lot more proficiency configuring pfSense 2.5.1 from a fresh install.

[comet424]

@nollipfsense
well how do i get it to convert

when i upgrade to 2.5.1 from 2.4.5
everything breaks
WAN assignments are broken
VPN is broken
Site to Site VPN is broken
internet if it does work works 5 min then goes down

on 2 of my other computers reboots dont help one will will work with IE but not firefox or chrome.. the other one will get Firefox but not IE or chrome
i cant get it running stable..

and thats from doing a Clean install and then importating the 2.4.5 config file

so how do i fix it so it will important with no issues

right now i running fine again on 2.4.5 well kinda my site to site isnt working and Package manager cant install the packages i guess when it got depreciate they disabled packages..

but id upgrade to 2.5.1 if i can get help to keep internet working that site to site would work.

i did try to save a new config file and tried 2.5.1. again and it still does thje same like wan ip4v it doesnt allow DHCP anymore if i wnated to use it.. or static ip and if i disable PPPOe and then renable type in user name password
it no longer connects it just sits in the down

is it the hardware i using that it isnt compatible?? i using a Asrock J4001 i think its a cpu mothberboard combo.. and i using i forget a non intel 4 port nic
would that be causing the problems???

would i try again import 1 section at a time and reboot in the backup restore

ill try again tomorrow just gonna make a 2nd ssd so i dont spend so much time trying to go back

[NollipfSense]

@comet424 Search the forum on PPPOe and 2.5.1, I suspect that's the issue with your WAN.

[comet424]

maybe ill retry tomorrow just upgrade without the clean install and import since import not working

maybe 3rd time charm updating from the OS ill set like WAN to dhcp or static when i upgrade maybe that will fix my 1 set of problems why its not giving internet really and it locks out the use of the PPP0E..

i dunno i grasping at straws here lol

@NollipfSense ok ill try.. thanks hopefully that fix it

[comet424]

@NollipfSense wasnt able to find anything useful
well there is couple things i guess i could try i searched. mostly i found my own forum question lol

1 was talking about patchs you need to do with something

another was talking about Multi WAN's but i only have 1.

didnt find anything like i having issues with... always something right ..

ill give it another go tomorrow

and how would you set the WAN to DHCP when 2.5.1 deletes DHCP,static,none as options.. how do you force them back?

[NollipfSense]

@comet424 said in 2.5.1 upgrade have no internet now yet reports i do:

how would you set the WAN to DHCP when 2.5.1 deletes DHCP,static,none as options.. how do you force them back?

I have never had problems with WAN nor needed to configure advanced option; however, you could be experiencing a delay when your ISP issues you an IP address. I am linking Steve @stephenw10
So he might help. Meanwhile, note the advance option in the image below.

[comet424]

i having 0 luck i spent all day on this i running on 2.5.1 now but blank slate and the Gui wont work

if i set my want to PPPOE it deletes DHCP like you seen at the top of the page you loose Static DHCP none and whatever other one

so i tried doing 1 import at a time for the backup restore each line basiclly
it had problem Importing Static Routes from the config file

i did have DHCP when i did a clean slate and was importing config file per section did a reboot and it was fine still wouldnt work..
and it showed dhcp and PPPOe under WAN
but as soon as i modified like block buttons on the bottom of the WAN interface.. it actually erased DHCP Static none.. so goes back to the pics i showed at the top of the forum

i get no internet yet it says i do.. i cant transition easily and i soo frustrated 3 days so far and i cant get it to work.....
unless i guess i have to type everything all over again from scratch
i going to try again once i get the gui to work 1 import area at a time and reboot.. but so far i cant transition

2.4.5 runs stable but i cant upgrade to 2.5.1 without issues

and i dont have that advanced check box. not for PPPoE and i couldnt even select DHCP pfsense deletes dhcp option

oh and about the pppoe once i deleted the login and it deleted the dhcp
and i typed in my login even if i did a reboot waited 10 min .. it would not login.. but if i restore the config file.. and boot up pppoe is logged in once i logged into pfsense

[NollipfSense]

@comet424 Well, you're not alone with this issue; so, you may file a bug report here: https://redmine.pfsense.org/

[comet424]

@nollipfsense ok i reported a bug i not 100% sure i posted it right they want it properly formated but i gave detailed info and link to this topic i created..

i gave up i spent all this time trying to get things to work.. in end i was bashing my head off the wall trying to get it to work.. i back to 2.4.5

it be nice if you could downgrade too.. like unraid revert back to previous version.. as i going mad and it didnt transition right

not so stable but you cant complain with free product right... be different if i had to buy it or subscription.. just like rogers wireless going down to all devices yesterday ..for the whole day.... technology great when it works (: they blamed it on a software bug

[winternoir]

Hi, might be a long shot, but I face similar issue in 2.5.0.

What I did was I changed from using DNS Resolver to using DNS Forwarder instead. This is after running through most of the options from pfSense's troubleshooting guide. DNS servers used are google's and cloudfare's.

To be honest, I was looking to see should I upgrade to 2.5.1 when I found this thread.

[comet424]

@winternoir @NollipfSense

at this point i wouldnt recommend upgrading yet till bugs fixed..
im already using dns resolver.. i use NordVPN so you gotta set it to resolver to NordVPN interfaces and there ipaddress's in the general setup.. but ill give it a try on a 2nd hard drive the dns forwarder see if i can get it to work.. ill try anything or i wait till 2.5.5 or 2.5.7 or 2.6 whatever be it that its fixed...

so they replied it didnt help me.. what hes talking about
"I can't reproduce anything like that here on PPPoE -- please keep the discussion going on your forum thread until a more accurate diagnosis can be identified. It sounds more like it might be related to DNS than DHCP, but the details are still unclear.

Also note that part of what you stated is expected and you're perhaps not working with the interface as you need to be. When you first change an interface to PPPoE it's changed significantly -- the firewall automatically makes an entry on the PPPs tab and the interface is reassigned to be based on that, which can only be PPPoE from that point. To change away from PPPoE to something like DHCP or static you have to go back to the assignments list and change it to use the physical parent interface again, then remove the PPP tab entry."

so apparently its not a bug but its ok thing and i gotta ask for more help here and its not abug so deal with it.. is the answer i understand from that answer..
i offered to send my config file to see the problems from a 2.4.5 working flawlessly to a broken 2.5.1

so i stuck so i guess they wont help so its back to here to solve the issue..
i also told them even if i save config file to DHCP for my WAN in 2.4.5 and set it up and then tranisition to 2.5.1 it still does not work
so hopefully i can get help here

so i back to spinning my wheels stable release to 2.5.1 should be called beta it may work.. i thought it was supposed to been tested

i just frustrated 4 days.. trying to get it to work and 4 days nothing and tells me its not a bug frustrated

i might as well have to re type everything up if you cant upgrade flawless

i waited till 2.5.1 because people were having iternet problems in to 2.5.0 so i waited till .1 figured all thats solved but here a iam day 4 and still frustrated..

ill just get a 2nd SSD
and keep my working 2.4.5 on it so when i get sick and tired of trying to get the 2.5.1 i just plug it back in.. right now i been cursing cuz i only have 1 SSD so its pain staking since my box is headless and i have to keep bring a screen to it.

ill probably take my 2nd laptop apart just to get the hard drive out to use as a 2.5.1 tester