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      Myst412
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      So I wanted to add 10gb networking to a couple of PCs and I thought since there's a PCIe slot on the M400, I could just throw a card on with a female to female pcie extender and presto chango, i'd be able to get 10GBe copper on my network for a fraction of a 4 port 10GBe switch.

      Used a Dell Chesio 5MHDP that I know works and has tested in another machine.

      extension is a cheap 20cm female-female extender. I can't test the extension cable, as I have no other boards with a male PCIe connector.

      power basically flickers and it doesn't even turn on. I can confirm the card is getting power. Is it possible that there's a whitelist of devices that can be plugged in?

      I'll look at the BIOS a bit more but was hoping this would work.

      edit: I am running the stock BIOS, will try Zanthos's modded BIOS and post results, was hoping I wouldn't have to flash it.

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        Mookatroid @Myst412
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        @myst412
        I have used the PCIe slot for an M.2 NVMe SSD on the M400 but I have since retired my M400 in favor of an M470 which offers native 10G connectivity

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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          It's more likely a power issue than the BIOS having a card whitelist. There would really be no reason for WatchGuard/Lanner to add that.
          Especially with a Chelsio card, those run hot. I've never attempted to cgeck the power consumption but it will be high.

          Steve

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            Myst412 @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10 Going to try a separate PSU, PCIE card, and also flash tonight. Will post results.

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              Myst412 @Myst412
              last edited by Myst412

              @stephenw10

              You were right, it was the psu.,

              I even tried a supposedly low power card and it still had the same issue. looking for a bigger 1u psu now.

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by

                Hmm, so nothing has worked? It is a standard (inverted) PCIe slot so I would start to suspect the cable/adapter.
                If it was a power limitation it would be on the PCIe bus/slot. Using a different PSU in the box itself may not help at all.

                Steve

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                  Myst412 @stephenw10
                  last edited by Myst412

                  @stephenw10

                  No. You were right and it was the internal psu capacity. Worked with a 450w atx just fine. I guess if it were blacklisted it would keep running but not boot. Looking for a 200-300w flexatx.

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                    valepe69
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                    Will the @zanthos bios work on a M470?
                    Thanks

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      No. The M470, and the M370/M570/M670, use a different board.

                      Steve

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                        coseno
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                        Hi all,

                        I'm first time on the forum and already read all pages here, wanted to make some questions more clear before I proceed to order more parts (M400 is on the way)

                        Already know the CPU i3-4130 works great but I wanted to install the i5-4590.

                        I know at topic 251 @iJay-XTM5 -Boot- it successfully but did not mention if -Reboot- is working normal or not.?

                        @stephenw10 Is this "HP Proliant DL580 G4 Front Panel VGA Video Display Header Cable 392250-002" the correct cable to get video and get the job done.? do I need to re-set the pins or is plug and play.? I plan to hook this M400 to a KVM I already have in the rack. would like the video active all the time (I read it needs to be enable in the Bios from the console and have a CPU with video chip)

                        seems like other 2013 works great but 2014 CPU do not reboot correctly.

                        Have SSD ready to go and its my first time doing PFsense. will post the findings as this will in my home where fiber get to me then to copper at 500/500.

                        Any test that you guys would like me to do I'm welcome to do.

                        Suggestions are appreciated
                        Thanks

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          No idea on that header cable. If it's 2mm dot pitch rather than 0.1" it can probably be made to work if the pins can be swapped.

                          I can tell you an i3-4160 does not reboot and that's one of the 2014 models.

                          Steve

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                            caKuma
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                              halk8888
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                              Just want to list my experience with the M400.

                              -flashed unlocked bios
                              -removed CF, added SSD
                              -stock cpu, idle cpu temp ~53C, 35W , ambient 28C
                              max cpu 45W

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                That seems quite warm for the stock CPU at idle unless you've turned the fans right down?
                                Not alarmingly hot though.

                                Steve

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                                  halk8888 @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10 yea, my temps are quite high compared to others. I messed with the fan settings to full blast and that was still the lowest temp I got.

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                    Hmm, maybe re-apply the hearsink compound then. Or just not worry about it, it's not that hot.

                                    Steve

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                                      caKuma
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                                      Hey all, Just got a M500 box and I am trying to flash the bios via FreeDOS but I couldnt get putty or screen to output anything via serial. I am using a FTDI rj45 serial to usb adapter, could this be the issue? Thanks in advance.
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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                                        Do you see the BIOS output at 115200bps?

                                        The console redirect will probably allow you to see the FreeDOS output at that baud rate too unless you are setting 9600 specifically.

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                                          caKuma @stephenw10
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                                          @stephenw10 Nope I didnt see BIOS output at 115200 bps as well. Is my console port dead? Trying to crimp some connector to connect VGA but cant find a VGA cable for the life of me. I just ordered some VGA extension cable and it should arrive the same day. Ill update on whether or not I get a VGA output.

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Mmm, I would certainly confirm the console setup on something else if you can.

                                            Do you hear the fans spin down slightly? Does it beep? Any indication that it's actually POSTing.

                                            Steve

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