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    how do i set pfsense to get ipv6 from isp

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      firefox @JKnott
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      @jknott

      updating
      I returned everything to the previous state
      Ipv4 only
      Because for some reason everything works slowly
      I currently will not use ipv6 maybe I will try again in a few months

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Yeah, that's typical of having partial v6 connectivity. Most operating systems will try to use it first if they think they have a v6 connection. If that is broken you have to wait for it to timeout before it tries v4 resulting in a pretty bad experience!

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          firefox @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10
          Is there a way around this?
          Any page loaded in a second or two
          Loads after 10 or 20 seconds

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            You can probably configure the clients to use only IPv4 or use v4 by default.

            Otherwise you need to either have fully functioning IPv6 or none.

            Steve

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @stephenw10
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              While you can normally adjust a OS preference to ipv4 from v6. Some devices are more difficult than others, and can be difficult to actually disable completely.

              If you are having issues with ipv6 - the simple solution is just not provide it at all.. Which is easy enough to disable at pfsense. Its much easier to do that way, then trying to configure each client to not use ipv6 or prefer v4 over, etc.

              I don't provide any automatic IPv6 to any clients on any of my vlans. But I can configure clients on the vlans I have it enabled manually to use it..

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                firefox @johnpoz
                last edited by

                i disabled ipv6
                on my pc
                Now it works properly

                Thanks

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                  AKEGEC @firefox
                  last edited by

                  @firefox said in how do i set pfsense to get ipv6 from isp:

                  i disabled ipv6
                  on my pc
                  Now it works properly

                  Thanks

                  Smart move! Here you can see why:
                  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vt4Jl4t43ug

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                    JKnott @AKEGEC
                    last edited by

                    @akegec

                    I wouldn't put much stock in what that guy says. He doesn't understand IPv6 enough to make those claims. In fact some of what he said is nonsense.

                    I made some comments on on that video last month.

                    @ firefox

                    As for IPv6, that is where the world is moving, so disabling IPv6 is not the fix. All you're doing is hiding the problem. If your ISP has a problem and they can't/won't fix it, there's always he.net.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yes, a fully functional IPv6 connection is the way forward here.

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @JKnott
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        @jknott said in how do i set pfsense to get ipv6 from isp:

                        In fact some of what he said is nonsense.

                        haha - "some" its pretty much all nonsense, I wasn't going to sit through 30 minutes of nonsense.. so just skipped through it.. Every part I stopped on was just nonsense.

                        Some of his comments as well - don't read books, don't read rfc's - watch videos? Come on!

                        I would agree disable ipv6 is not a "fix" What it is, is a way for you to get up to speed with your understanding before you use what yes is the future.

                        Until such time that you have a NEED there is no reason to have it enabled unless you actually understand how it works, how to secure it and how it functions to be able to troubleshoot it when things go wrong.

                        Many users have it and don't even know, they might not be having any problems, they might not attribute issues they are having with IPv6, etc.

                        Do you have a web server running if you don't need one, do you have ftp running when you don't need one.

                        Security 101 says if your not using something - then it shouldn't be enabled. If you have no use for ipv6 then there is little reason for you to have it up and running. Unless your actively going to be using it, or experimenting with it.

                        I would not say you should disable your IPv6 unless you're having issues. But if you are, there is nothing wrong with just turning it off until such time that you actually need it. Or are willing to spend the time needed to get up to speed and properly configure your network for its use.

                        You can for sure bring up ipv6 in limited fashion to use and play without until such time your are comfortable and know enough to properly deploy it across your full network.

                        What is nice about pfsense - it gives you the ability to do just that. Vs some soho router where it on or off, with limited ability to manage it or monitor it, etc.

                        The mentioned hurricane electric is a very controlled way to bring ipv6 into your network. Limit its scope or not. With no need to have to deal with your isp lack of ipv6 support or inadequate type of deployment.

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                          JKnott @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz said in how do i set pfsense to get ipv6 from isp:

                          haha - "some" its pretty much all nonsense,

                          That pretty much sums up his videos. I have tried to watch a couple of others but couldn't stomach them. I guess he's one of these "experts" who's read a couple of magazine articles and now knows all there is to know.

                          It reminds me of a job I was on a few years ago, where the woman, who was the office manager, got annoyed because I plugged my computer into the switch with a CAT 5 patch cord. She was convinced it was going to affect her network, which we'd just cabled with CAT 6. She knew that because her husband (he's a veterinarian) had read some magazine articles. 😉

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                            firefox @JKnott
                            last edited by

                            Thank you all
                            Although I would like it to work properly
                            I currently do not really need ipv6
                            I wanted it to work to test something
                            And it's probably not easy
                            One of the times I tried I was left without an internet connection
                            So i had to restart pfsense and select restore to previous state
                            Because no matter what I did it was left without an internet connection

                            If it was as simple as changing the settings and clicking apply
                            I would do that
                            But as I wrote down
                            I was left without internet
                            And even if I changed the settings to the previous mode it did not work

                            Only when I started pfsense and selected restore to previous state
                            It's back to work

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                            • AKEGECA
                              AKEGEC @JKnott
                              last edited by

                              @James, you and Lawrence from Lawrence System have been working with IPv6 for many years. Even now he don't use IPv6.
                              About the video, well nonsense is really a strong word. I think the point he wants to make, that average users don't know how to modify IPv6. By default most devices use IPv6 are not configured correctly.

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                                JKnott @AKEGEC
                                last edited by

                                @akegec

                                Actually, considering what he was saying, nonsense is not too strong. He was flat out wrong. See my comments on that video As for Lawrence, I don't know what he does with IPv6. My interest in his videos has been mainly with Unifi APs and I don't recall him ever mentioning IPv6. However, he may be doing a video on a data tap, as per my suggestion.

                                As for IPv6 in general, I find some people just dismiss it, because they don't want to learn and think it's OK that the Internet will be crippled as long as IPv4 is the main protocol. I saw the address problem with IPv4, shortly after I started learning about TCP/IP in the mid '90s. Not long after, I read about IPv6 in the April 1995 issue of Byte magazine and realized that was the way to go.

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                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

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                                  firefox @JKnott
                                  last edited by

                                  @jknott

                                  bad luck
                                  Now for some reason it has returned to the state where each page loads after 20 seconds or 30 seconds even though ipv6 is disabled (in pfsense and pc)

                                  How to fix it
                                  So that it will work without any problems

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                                    JKnott @firefox
                                    last edited by

                                    @firefox

                                    Well, it's obviously not IPv6 causing this. What happens if you connect a computer directly to your modem?

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                                      firefox
                                      last edited by

                                      @jknott
                                      In direct connection to the modem {this time as a router) works fine
                                      I tried to change the settings in pfsense
                                      And again I was left without an internet connection
                                      And I had to do a restore to last settings

                                      Is there a log that lists all of these changes and what is wrong?

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                                      • stephenw10S
                                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                        last edited by

                                        Config changes can be seen in Diag > Backup/Restore > Config History.

                                        Actual errors will be in the System log.

                                        But if it's just misconfigured you'll have to troubleshoot it.

                                        Steve

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                                          firefox @stephenw10
                                          last edited by

                                          @stephenw10
                                          I know where the Backup/Restore
                                          It does not respond
                                          The only way it responds if I ssh to pfsense
                                          And selects there the option of restore
                                          Which is actually the same thing but there it responds

                                          If I change a setting to something specific and it does not work
                                          So I return it to the same thing that was before
                                          It should work without doing a restore

                                          What's happening now
                                          When I change the settings of ipv6
                                          And it does not fit (the Internet is disconnected)
                                          I change back to the same settings as before
                                          The settings change but the link to the Internet remains disconnected
                                          The internet link only comes back if I do a restore

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