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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @provels
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      There was something about this not all that long ago - same sort of issue.. Let me see if I can find that thread.

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        provels @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz
        Maybe me and @revengineer ...
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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @provels
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          No that doesn't seem like it - I recall some issues with the monitor graph showing odd stuff related to time.. But as of yet have not been able to find that thread..

          Maybe I am confusing it with something else?? If I recall something related to time on computer vs time on pfsense.

          Can you validate time on your PC matches up with pfsense time and timezone, etc..

          edit:
          Maybe I am thinking of the traffic graph, and not the monitoring graph. Your looking at the quality graph in monitoring right?

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            provels @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz
            Yes, time is same. PFSense is VM and uses its NTP client. It does not use host time sync. Host uses it's own NTP client (Meinberg, not Windows). All match +/- ms.

            Thanks for the assist.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @provels
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              This is the graph your looking at right

              thisgraph.png

              If you zoom into say 1 hour

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                provels @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz
                Yes, here's the 1 hour, wacky:

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @provels
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                  So your in the future ;) Maybe it can tell the future and knows your going to have an outage on the 14th ;)

                  edit:
                  So clearly pfsense thinks its the 14th..

                  From cmd line check..

                  [21.05-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: date
                  Fri Jun 11 06:51:54 CDT 2021
                  [21.05-RELEASE][admin@sg4860.local.lan]/root: 
                  

                  What does say the firewall log show for date and time?

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                    provels @johnpoz
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                    @johnpoz Screw it, time to whack the RRD data I think.

                    Graph locked at 6/14 0629...

                    [2.5.1-RELEASE][root@fw.workgroup]/root: date
                    Fri Jun 11 07:09:23 CDT 2021

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @provels
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                      Well odd for sure - currently drawing a blank.. Have you tried resetting the data?

                      reset.png

                      Do all the other monitor graphs show the same in the future date?

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                        provels @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz said in Aberrant time display in Monitoring graph:

                        Do all the other monitor graphs show the same in the future date?

                        Yes they did, but cleared data now. Thanks for your attention anyway. Over and out.

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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @provels
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                          So the reset data fixed it?

                          Curious how it got mixed up.. I would have to think at some point pfsense had wrong date..

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                            @johnpoz
                            Yep. go figure. fortunately, I'm only responsible to myself for SLA...

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @provels
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                              Very strange, I wonder if @jimp might be able to shed some light on how it could happen?

                              Or maybe someone else that is more versed in the code on how that data is stored and retrieved can shed some light on how it happened.

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                                provels @johnpoz
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                                From what I've read, RRD Summary and Monitoring both use the same data, so I'd chalk it up to crud and corruption in the DB. Perhaps it is something to do with the virtual environment and host reboots. Normally, I shut pfSense down manually before a reboot, but I've also let the host save state recently. Back to shutting down FW first.

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                                  jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                  Hard to say what might have happened there. Perhaps the VM clock jumped ahead at some point, had data added to the RRD file, and then the clock was set back.

                                  Last I knew, RRD did not take kindly to future dates in the RRD files and it may have caused it to stop adding data since nothing was newer than the latest timestamp.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @jimp
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                                    @jimp said in Aberrant time display in Monitoring graph:

                                    caused it to stop adding data since nothing was newer than the latest timestamp.

                                    So if he would of just left it, once the actual date got beyond the 14th he was seeing - it could starting added new data?

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                                      jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
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                                      I suspect it would have. That's what has happened in the past during similar situations when I've tried it. Granted the last time I tried any time-based shenanigans with RRD was many many years ago. I don't think it's changed that much in its core though.

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