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    • bingo600B
      bingo600
      last edited by bingo600

      NTP will exit or refuse to start if the local clock is too far off the NTP received clock. ISTR 15 sec is the limit.

      Most installations uses ntpdate , to update the local clock before starting the NTP daemon.

      https://linux.die.net/man/8/ntpdate

      Remember once the NTP daemon is started , ntpdate won't connect anymore.
      As the daemon "owns/blocks" the port.

      Edit:
      Now will be a good time to reveal what Linux distro you have installed on the C2 ....

      Edit2:
      Wasn't this a Stratum 1 server build ... Indicating you have a GPS clock source ?
      Then the NTP date shouldn't be needed , provided your GPS sends the correct data sentences.

      /Bingo

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        jcpingu @bingo600
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        @bingo600

        I am using dietpi 7.2

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        • stephenw10S
          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by

          Yes, it's showing 0 reach there so it's not seeing any data. Also no other ntp servers configured as sources so it's never going to sync to anything.

          Is your GPS seeing sufficient satellites to get a lock?

          Are you seeing NMEA strings from it on the com port?

          My output looks different to yours because I'm running that on pfSense directly.

          Steve

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            jcpingu @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10
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              jcpingu @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10
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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @jcpingu
                last edited by bingo600

                @jcpingu
                The interesting NMEA packets are the : $GNRMC packets.

                I see you skipped the "NMEA" filter the guide uses (to only see the RMC's) , was that because you don't use an Ublox 8 ?

                Edit:
                From the guide:
                Uses the NMEA reference clock 20 driver specified by 127.127.20.0.
                Mode 17 sets the driver to process only GPRMC message at 9600bps. Using higher clock speeds does not necessarily increase timing precision and because we have disabled non-GPRMC messages, there’s no risk of not being able to transmit the message within the 1 second timespan.

                Did i see you use 115200 ???

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                  jcpingu @bingo600
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                  @bingo600
                  I have a newer revision of the GPS Board. Its default baud is 115200

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                    jcpingu @bingo600
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                    @bingo600
                    I will check $GNRMC. It looks like I am not getting them...

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                      jcpingu @bingo600
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                      @bingo600
                      Here you go:
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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by stephenw10

                        Does ppstest work against gpspps0? If not did you create the symlink?

                        What does your ntp.conf file look like? Did you change the mode for 115200 baud?

                        Edit: Yeah you probably want mode 81 there.

                        Steve

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                          jcpingu @stephenw10
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                          @stephenw10
                          Yes per the guide Symlink is used, there's a file that use the below:
                          KERNEL=="ttyS1", SYMLINK+="gps0"
                          KERNEL=="pps0", SYMLINK+="gpspps0"

                          Also, how do I edit ntp.conf? When I enter it, I get permission denied
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                            jcpingu @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10
                            Here is the ntp.conf content in the guide. Are you saying to change mode 17 to 81?

                            server 127.127.20.0 mode 17 minpoll 4 maxpoll 4 prefer
                            fudge 127.127.20.0 flag1 1 refid GPS

                            security

                            restrict default kod limited nomodify nopeer
                            restrict -6 default kod limited nomodify nopeer

                            Local users may interrogate the NTP server fully.

                            restrict 127.0.0.1
                            restrict -6 ::1

                            stats

                            driftfile /var/lib/ntp/ntp.drift

                            Enable statistics logging.

                            statsdir /var/log/ntpstats/
                            statistics loopstats peerstats clockstats
                            filegen loopstats file loopstats type day enable
                            filegen peerstats file peerstats type day enable
                            filegen clockstats file clockstats type day enable

                            leap file

                            leapfile /var/lib/ntp/leap-seconds.list

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                            • stephenw10S
                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                              Yes because, like it says there, mode 17 is for 9600 baud and your GPS is running at 115200. So currently it's seeing no data.

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                                jcpingu @stephenw10
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                                @stephenw10
                                Thank you. I will advise latest status...

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                                  jcpingu @stephenw10
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                                  @stephenw10
                                  The good News:
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                                  The not so good news, I am still seeing clock unsynchronized:
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                                    jcpingu @stephenw10
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                                    @stephenw10
                                    I was looking @ your example, and I see that it also shows this error:
                                    Jun 21 18:35:03 ntpd 56634 kernel reports TIME_ERROR: 0x41: Clock Unsynchronized

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by

                                      Yes, I expect it to show that when ntpd is first started. It won't sync until sometime later when ntp is confident the time data it has is correct.
                                      Wait some time and recheck. Or it may have already sync'd there since it show an offset or effectively 0 (2μs) from the GPS time.

                                      Steve

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                                        jcpingu @stephenw10
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                                        @stephenw10
                                        Thank you for all your help. I truly appreciate your patience and kindness. I still see the error this morning. However ntpq -p is showing the right output. I am assuming there's nothing I can do about the error...
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                                        • bingo600B
                                          bingo600 @jcpingu
                                          last edited by

                                          @jcpingu

                                          Have a look here
                                          https://serverfault.com/questions/1048870/ntpd-fails-to-sync-time-error-0x41-clock-unsynchronized

                                          Especially this command : ntpq -c sysinfo

                                          Normally as @stephenw10 mentioned , ntpd won't just accept a new clocksource , before investigating if it's "ok".

                                          I usually expect approx 5 minutes (after daemon start) for the daemon to "trust/select" a clocksource.

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                                            jcpingu @bingo600
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                                            @bingo600
                                            Here's the output of that command. I will check out the link. Thanks...
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