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    Is ZFS possible on APU2C4

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    • B Offline
      BrucexLing
      last edited by

      I have made some progress and I now have a working pfSense system working on a ZFS file system on my APU2C4. The only issue I seem to have now is am getting the warning/error:
      “fdisk: mounted root fs resource doesn't match expectations (regexec returned 1)”
      when doing a fdisk from the pfSense shell. Here is the output for fdisk and gpart that might shed light on what could be done to improve bsd’s expectations.

      [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: fdisk
      fdisk: mounted root fs resource doesn't match expectations (regexec returned 1)
      
      
      [2.4.5-RELEASE][admin@pfSense.localdomain]/root: gpart list
      Geom name: ada0
      modified: false
      state: OK
      fwheads: 16
      fwsectors: 63
      last: 31277191
      first: 40
      entries: 128
      scheme: GPT
      Providers:
      1. Name: ada0p1
         Mediasize: 524288 (512K)
         Sectorsize: 512
         Stripesize: 0
         Stripeoffset: 20480
         Mode: r0w0e0
         efimedia: HD(1,GPT,dc32bdf5-aa2a-11eb-b19d-000db941e06c,0x28,0x400)
         rawuuid: dc32bdf5-aa2a-11eb-b19d-000db941e06c
         rawtype: 83bd6b9d-7f41-11dc-be0b-001560b84f0f
         label: gptboot0
         length: 524288
         offset: 20480
         type: freebsd-boot
         index: 1
         end: 1063
         start: 40
      2. Name: ada0p2
         Mediasize: 2147483648 (2.0G)
         Sectorsize: 512
         Stripesize: 0
         Stripeoffset: 1048576
         Mode: r1w1e0
         efimedia: HD(2,GPT,dc4a08f6-aa2a-11eb-b19d-000db941e06c,0x800,0x400000)
         rawuuid: dc4a08f6-aa2a-11eb-b19d-000db941e06c
         rawtype: 516e7cb5-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
         label: swap0
         length: 2147483648
         offset: 1048576
         type: freebsd-swap
         index: 2
         end: 4196351
         start: 2048
      3. Name: ada0p3
         Mediasize: 13865320448 (13G)
         Sectorsize: 512
         Stripesize: 0
         Stripeoffset: 2148532224
         Mode: r1w1e1
         efimedia: HD(3,GPT,dc5bdced-aa2a-11eb-b19d-000db941e06c,0x400800,0x19d3800)
         rawuuid: dc5bdced-aa2a-11eb-b19d-000db941e06c
         rawtype: 516e7cba-6ecf-11d6-8ff8-00022d09712b
         label: zfs0
         length: 13865320448
         offset: 2148532224
         type: freebsd-zfs
         index: 3
         end: 31277055
         start: 4196352
      Consumers:
      1. Name: ada0
         Mediasize: 16013942784 (15G)
         Sectorsize: 512
         Mode: r2w2e3
      

      The key to getting past the earlier “file exists” blockage was to do the first part of the install to a second usb flash drive rather than the hard disk. I could then boot from that second flash drive and do the second part of the install to the clean hard disk. In this way it sailed through the ZFS selection.

      Do you think redoing the install onto a completely zeroed hard disk would resolve the current problem?

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      • KOMK Offline
        KOM @BrucexLing
        last edited by

        @brucexling No idea but I'm wondering why you're installing 2.4.5.

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        • B Offline
          BrucexLing
          last edited by

          I am under the impression that 2.5.1 has some issues with multi-Wan, and I need that capability. I did attempt a trial install of 2.5.0 when it first appeared but I had problems with the install. I think one problem was with ZFS selection, but it was a while ago so not real sure. When 2.5.2 lands and beds down a bit I’ll probably move to that.

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          • KOMK Offline
            KOM @BrucexLing
            last edited by

            @brucexling Makes sense.

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            • B Offline
              bigsy @BrucexLing
              last edited by

              @brucexling said in Is ZFS possible on APU2C4:

              using the Tinycore serial install method. Could I please ask if anyone is successfully using ZFS on an APU2C4 and if they recall any such issues along the way?

              No problems installing to ZFS here multiple times on APU2E4.

              Why the 'Tinycore' method and not straight from the pfSense AMD64 USB Memstick serial console image?

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              • B Offline
                BrucexLing
                last edited by

                Good call bigsy. The TinyCore method was what PCEngines suggested in the nanobsd days, and it still works with current Memstick serial console images for UFS but not ZFS unless you do what I finally did, at least that has been my experience. Etcher is a cleaner method and I see it is now preferred by PCEngines so I’ll use it from now on.

                Either way the result remains that fdisk is reporting the mounted root fs mismatch issue. I have just had a chat over on the freeBSD forum and the upshot seems to be that I shouldn’t believe the warning that the obsoleted fdisk produces and rather put my trust in gpart. Looks like I need to update my practices.

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                  viragomann @BrucexLing
                  last edited by

                  @brucexling said in Is ZFS possible on APU2C4:

                  Either way the result remains that fdisk is reporting the mounted root fs mismatch issue.

                  I get the same in my 2.4.5 installations and they are running for years.

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                  • JeGrJ Offline
                    JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @BrucexLing
                    last edited by

                    @brucexling I'd go with rufus. -> https://rufus.ie/
                    Can't see the reason why a simply "dd" frontend to write to freakin' USB sticks should take a whole electron app thingy with hundreds of MB to install just to have a fancy UI ;)

                    Besides that - just use a memstick-serial image for APUs and use Auto (ZFS) to install. Nothing special with that, we're using that with almost any device now. Only thing with PCengines thingies was with their BIOS/CoreBIOS and early problems with booting onboard SSDs etc. and if you've tried installing ZFS on USB sticks or SD/CF cards but that's waaaay back. Can't remember seeing boxes without a halfway decent SSD installed, so nothing special to the installer necessary :)

                    Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

                    If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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                    • QinnQ Offline
                      Qinn
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                      ZFS has been my choice since it is available on pfSense. Comparing UFS with ZFS, well ZFS, like btrfs, is copy-on-write, so power surges are never a problem and ZFS requires a system with ECC memory (APU2 has this), otherwise you're still not 100% safeguarded against bit errors.

                      Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                      Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                      Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                        JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @Qinn
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                        @qinn said in Is ZFS possible on APU2C4:

                        and ZFS requires a system with ECC memory (APU2 has this),

                        No it doesn't. It is recommended - and always nice to have - but it isn't required at all.

                        Don't forget to upvote 👍 those who kindly offered their time and brainpower to help you!

                        If you're interested, I'm available to discuss details of German-speaking paid support (for companies) if needed.

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                        • QinnQ Offline
                          Qinn @JeGr
                          last edited by Qinn

                          @jegr said in Is ZFS possible on APU2C4:

                          @qinn said in Is ZFS possible on APU2C4:

                          and ZFS requires a system with ECC memory (APU2 has this),

                          No it doesn't. It is recommended - and always nice to have - but it isn't required at all.

                          Not claiming to be an expert and maybe I formulated it badly, but I said; "that it is required if you want to be 100% safeguarded against bit errors".

                          @everyone, you could read https://hectronic.se/ecc-memory-solves-bit-errors/

                          Cheers Qinn

                          Hardeware: Intel(R) Celeron(R) J4125 CPU @ 2.00GHz 102 GB mSATA SSD (ZFS)
                          Firmware: Latest-stable-pfSense CE (amd64)
                          Packages: pfBlockerNG devel-beta (beta tester) - Avahi - Notes - Ntopng - PIMD/udpbroadcastrelay - Service Watchdog - System Patches

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                          • GilG Offline
                            Gil Rebel Alliance
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                            I ran a number of APU2 devices on ZFS.
                            The memstick method was successful but slow,
                            so I created my own dd image (via ubuntu live disk).
                            and then used Etcher to create new SD Cards in order build the rest of the APU2 devices.

                            11 cheers for binary

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