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    camilo625
    last edited by Sep 30, 2016, 4:35 AM Sep 30, 2016, 3:51 AM

    Hi, i'm looking to build a complex(at least for me) network setup, i want 1 WAN, 1 LAN going to a PC, 1 LAN going to an AP, and another LAN going to two AP's with 8 SSID's each, i need the 3rd LAN to be separated from the rest of the network, and if possible each ssid separated from each other, as far as i know i need to use VLAN's, one for each ssid, but i don't know if i need a VLAN capable switch (i need a switch to go from 1 nic to the 2 AP's) or just a unmanaged one, also would like if i can have independent dhcp ranges for each SSID in the 3rd LAN. I attached an example image for help. Also in the future i may get a 2nd WAN connection for routing the traffic from LAN 3 exclusively.

    PD: the AP's are Tp-Link 901nd's with dd-wrt, the rest of the hardware it's still TBD.
    PD2: my main question it's if it is possible to do something like this and what i need.

    Accept any suggestions  ;D
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      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by Sep 30, 2016, 5:25 AM

      Yes, you need a VLAN-capable smart/managed switch.

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        SoulChild
        last edited by Sep 30, 2016, 7:38 AM

        Sure, it's possible

        You indeed need a vlan-capable switch.

        Prices of this range from several thousand bucks to 20 something.

        I have personal experience at home with these:

        http://www.ebuyer.com/641041-tp-link-tl-sg108e-8-port-gigabit-easy-smart-network-switch-tl-sg108e?mkwid=s1HfC5rWZ_dc&pcrid=51482425979&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=Cj0KEQjwmri_BRCZpaHkuIH75_IBEiQAIG0rIT5tBk3xx6BSTrX8HzKbXoMKydTRzeB4DU1q0HfRVBcaAmla8P8HAQ

        Sure, the gui is confusing and pedantic, but once you got it working, it works fine. You can't expect everything for 20 bucks :)

        For a bit more, you can have 24 ports, even.

        For simple(!) vlan setups like yours, this will work fine.

        But be aware that setting this up can be painfull unless you're really sure what you're doing. But then again: you only learn by trying :)

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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by Sep 30, 2016, 11:46 AM

          "with 8 SSID's each"

          What AP are you planning on doing that with?  Are you talking 4 on your 2.4 and 4 on your 5ghz band?

          Why would you want/need so many SSIDs?  You do understand the as your increase the number of SSIDs your wifi performance takes a hit right..
          https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/WiFi_Basics_and_Best_Practices/Multi-SSID_Deployment_Considerations
          http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Community-Tribal-Knowledge-Base/The-Impact-of-Multiple-SSIDs-on-Wi-Fi-Performance/ta-p/25374

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            camilo625
            last edited by Sep 30, 2016, 6:11 PM

            @johnpoz:

            "with 8 SSID's each"

            What AP are you planning on doing that with?  Are you talking 4 on your 2.4 and 4 on your 5ghz band?

            Why would you want/need so many SSIDs?  You do understand the as your increase the number of SSIDs your wifi performance takes a hit right..
            https://documentation.meraki.com/MR/WiFi_Basics_and_Best_Practices/Multi-SSID_Deployment_Considerations
            http://community.arubanetworks.com/t5/Community-Tribal-Knowledge-Base/The-Impact-of-Multiple-SSIDs-on-Wi-Fi-Performance/ta-p/25374

            Yeah i know, i really don't need performance on those AP's, they are going to handle very low traffic, the 8 SSIDs are on the 2.4ghz band, im planing on using the ones i have, tplink wa901nd, with ddwrt they let you use 8 ssid's and are working just fine right now.

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              camilo625
              last edited by Sep 30, 2016, 6:13 PM

              @SoulChild:

              Sure, it's possible

              You indeed need a vlan-capable switch.

              Prices of this range from several thousand bucks to 20 something.

              I have personal experience at home with these:

              http://www.ebuyer.com/641041-tp-link-tl-sg108e-8-port-gigabit-easy-smart-network-switch-tl-sg108e?mkwid=s1HfC5rWZ_dc&pcrid=51482425979&pkw=&pmt=&gclid=Cj0KEQjwmri_BRCZpaHkuIH75_IBEiQAIG0rIT5tBk3xx6BSTrX8HzKbXoMKydTRzeB4DU1q0HfRVBcaAmla8P8HAQ

              Sure, the gui is confusing and pedantic, but once you got it working, it works fine. You can't expect everything for 20 bucks :)

              For a bit more, you can have 24 ports, even.

              For simple(!) vlan setups like yours, this will work fine.

              But be aware that setting this up can be painfull unless you're really sure what you're doing. But then again: you only learn by trying :)

              Thanks! im going to do a little research on those switches, i was thinking on the "Tl-sg2008" its a little better i think and i found it at good price.

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