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      aholmes5
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      Hello -

      I am new to pfsense and am looking to replace my existing router (ASUS RT-AC68U running Tomato) with something with a bit more power for home use.  Currently have 300/30 cable based internet but am upgrading to 1GB symmetric fiber once AT&T finishes in my neighborhood (2-3 months) primarily for the lower latency of fiber.  I use a Ubiquiti Unifi Pro AC access point for wifi.

      Use scenario is: 3-5 openvpn connections - 3 on basically all the time.  Mix of 6 desktop and laptops and one ESXi server with 5 VMs including a ZFS NAS serves media content both internally and to a vacation house.  Everything wired for gigabit except 3 laptops and some smartphones on wifi.

      Would like to be able to do content filtering for kids devices which I currently can't really do with the ASUS.  ASUS also gets pretty slow with more than 1 OpenVPN connection.

      If I were to go pfsense, I would purchase from the store.  I am curious which of the models would best suit my needs.  Would like some growing room and the ability to support MultiWAN.

      I was thinking the SG-2440 was right but then wondered if the SG-4860 might better handle the openvpn traffic.  Suggestions?

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        avmike
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        Go with the SG-2440.  I'm using one on Comcast 125/25.  Multiple VLANs, also maintain a full time site-to-site VPN to Microsoft Azure.  The CPU doesn't budge on this thing.  Been 100% stable for the year of so I've had it.  Highly recommended.

        Also have Ubiquiti AC Pro's.

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          whosmatt
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          @aholmes5:

          Hello -

          I am new to pfsense and am looking to replace my existing router (ASUS RT-AC68U running Tomato) with something with a bit more power for home use.  Currently have 300/30 cable based internet but am upgrading to 1GB symmetric fiber once AT&T finishes in my neighborhood (2-3 months) primarily for the lower latency of fiber.  I use a Ubiquiti Unifi Pro AC access point for wifi.

          Use scenario is: 3-5 openvpn connections - 3 on basically all the time.

          I was thinking the SG-2440 was right but then wondered if the SG-4860 might better handle the openvpn traffic.  Suggestions?

          OpenVPN is single threaded, so 3 connections (assuming these are client connections; ie your pfSense box is the client) will be best served with the 4860.  The four cores + added CPU speed per core will serve you well in that regard, even with your current 300Mbps connection.

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            Finger79
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            @whosmatt:

            OpenVPN is single threaded….

            Hope this improves.  I'm curious how much better OpenVPN will be once it natively supports AES-NI (for AES-GCM) as well as hopefully goes multi-threaded.  Then our Atoms will be able to handle gigabit Internet OpenVPN better.

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              aholmes5
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              Thanks for the advice.  I think I'm going to punch the button on the SG-4860 - probably overkill for my needs but hopefully will support me well into the future, especially if the Intel Quickassist technology becomes viable.  I also really like the idea of supporting the project and don't mind paying a bit of a premium to support software that works.

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                whosmatt
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                You won't regret it, especially once you hit the 1Gbps WAN mark and want to use OpenVPN tunnels.  You haven't detailed your OpenVPN usage, but if you're like a lot of us and using tunnels from a provider like PIA, many of us have had good luck using multiple tunnels simultaneously aggregated into a gateway group.  Even with a powerful CPU, that's the only way to really max out a big WAN connection with OpenVPN as a client.  Check out this thread that I started; the good stuff starts at the bottom of the first page:  https://forum.pfsense.org/index.php?topic=115992.0  And the good stuff is not my contribution, it's thanks to user M_Devil.

                EDIT:  I should also give props to user mauroman33, who helped me tune my single tunnel connections.  That plus the multiple tunnel config really got it singing.  And I'm only on a 150Mbps connection.  It took the tuning + an upgrade from a dual core 1.4GHz CPU to a quad core 2GHz cpu to really get the most out of even that.

                -M

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                  Guest
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                  Thanks for the advice.  I think I'm going to punch the button on the SG-4860 - probably overkill for my needs but hopefully will support me well into the future, especially if the Intel Quickassist technology becomes viable.  I also really like the idea of supporting the project and don't mind paying a bit of a premium to support software that works.

                  At first go with that SG-4860 you wont regret it anymore and anytime! For the VPN tasks, I would
                  give you the tip to chose the IPSec (AES-GCM) you would be able to get something around ~500 MBit/s
                  +/- some MBit/s more or less!!! It is based on using the AES-NI which is used by AES-GCM algorithm.

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