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    Artwork with a very hi density network

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    • W Offline
      W4RH34D
      last edited by

      Just enjoying the time I'm not spending banging my head on a desk before I moved to pfsense.

      LOL

      OP Are your client devices going to be made?  Meaning do you get to choose the hardware/software in which to accomplish your goal or are you just going to try to use prosumer/consumer gear?
      Do you require full duplex communication to each "node" individually?

      Did you really check your cables?

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      • M Offline
        MicheMuche
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        My devices are all going to be the same.
        If possible all made with this very cheap and simple component : ESP8266 (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ESP8266) which can be bought for less than 2$, is compatible with 802.11 b/g/n (only 2.4GHz) and have an integrated GPIO which can handle up to 16 I/O.
        They will definitly all move (located on a hat worn by people) in an open area (no walls, no doors) …
        And once again, all send and receive only a few bytes every 5 seconds with an acceptable delay of 1 sec.

        Regarding the price, I expect a price of 3 to 4$ per device => 3000 to 4000 $ total for the devices.
        What would be the necessary budget for network infrastucture
        To reduce the network infrastructure cost, I would prefer to build my own AP, using old PC's or mini PC's like banana Pi M3 (if that has any sense, sorry I am definitly not an expert in the network area)

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        • johnpozJ Offline
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          Out of curiosity if some art project that people will were to produce some sort of light show, etc.  Why do they need to be networked?  Couldn't you just program the light pattern/blinking/etc on the devices.

          The AP's as mentioned that can handle 200 plus associations and still function are not consumer routers you pickup and your local computer store.. Your going to need enterprise class AP for that.. That are not cheap.. Build your own??  While possible, prob cheaper sure in the long run.

          Not sure what specific model of ruckus Derelict had in mine but your prob in the 400$ each range for a 3x3 AC.. If he is thinking something like the ZoneFlex R710, which is wave 2, 4x4:4 so its really designed for a high density of clients, etc.. And pretty smoking AP your looking at 8 bills for sure retail.

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          • DerelictD Offline
            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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            On 2.4 you are going to want as few radios as possible and you are still going to have no choice but to double-up on the frequencies.

            Far less optimistic about that working well on 2.4.

            Probably at least some used 7982.

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            • jahonixJ Offline
              jahonix
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              @MicheMuche:

              …any advice you may have...

              Hire a guy like Derelict and work with him/that person through your project.

              That's probably your best bet, given that …
              @MicheMuche:

              …I am not an expert in network...

              Where are you located?

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              • F Offline
                FauxShow
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                It really sounds like this project isn't appropriate for wifi; something like LoRa or other basic RF would be better able to accommodate your device load and far cheaper, especially at scale.

                brb; gotta reboot my pfsense

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                • jahonixJ Offline
                  jahonix
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                  @MicheMuche:

                  For several reasons, those objects can not be wired => Wireless communication

                  Do you power all devices by battery as well?
                  There are countless protocols not bound to ethernet with only one or two wires needed for communications.

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