How Many 10 Gigabit Interfaces Can You Have?



  • I was looking at some of the Netgate Systems http://store.netgate.com/pfSense/systems.aspx and was curious as to how many 10 Gigabit interfaces you can have in lets say the XG-1541 including expansion slots. For example on SG-8860 it's clearly shown that there are 6 1 Gigabit interfaces (WAN, LAN, & OPTs).



  • I was looking at some of the Netgate Systems http://store.netgate.com/pfSense/systems.aspx and was curious as to how many 10 Gigabit interfaces you can have in lets say the XG-1541 including expansion slots.

    That should be 2 or 4 depending on the NIC that must fit into the expansion slot.

    For example on SG-8860 it's clearly shown that there are 6 1 Gigabit interfaces (WAN, LAN, & OPTs).

    But this are not 10 GBit/s interfaces, this are only 1 GBit/s interfaces.

    You can buy the XG-2758 with two 10 GBit/s ports or the XG-1541 together with the
    Chelsio dual port 10 GBit/s NIC.



  • @BlueKobold:

    I was looking at some of the Netgate Systems http://store.netgate.com/pfSense/systems.aspx and was curious as to how many 10 Gigabit interfaces you can have in lets say the XG-1541 including expansion slots.

    That should be 2 or 4 depending on the NIC that must fit into the expansion slot.

    For example on SG-8860 it's clearly shown that there are 6 1 Gigabit interfaces (WAN, LAN, & OPTs).

    But this are not 10 GBit/s interfaces, this are only 1 GBit/s interfaces.

    You can buy the XG-2758 with two 10 GBit/s ports or the XG-1541 together with the
    Chelsio dual port 10 GBit/s NIC.

    Ya I know the SG one only has the 1 Gigabit interfaces was just using it as a interface comparison.

    But for the XG-1541, what is the description saying about the ports that are displayed in the image. Are these all 10 GB interfaces, cause I doubt it. I see that with the Chelsio expansion card for $349 you can get another 2, 10GbE (ports) interfaces which is nice.

    Dual LAN via Intel® i350-AM2 1 Gigabit Ethernet
    Dual LAN via SoC 10GBase-T
    Virtual Machine Device Queues reduce I/O overhead
    Supports 10GBASE-T, 100BASE-TX, and 1000BASE-T, RJ45 output
    1x Realtek RTL8201N PHY (dedicated IPMI)



  • Dual LAN via Intel® i350-AM2 1 Gigabit Ethernet
    Dual LAN via SoC 10GBase-T
    1x Realtek RTL8201N PHY (dedicated IPMI)

    Oh, I see this was my false, there are two RJ45 GB LAN (1 GBit/s) Ports and
    two 10 GbE RJ45 (10 GBit/s) Ports and one RJ45 IPMI port (1 GBit/s)!
    Additional only over the PCIe card option.


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    There is the Intel X540 T1/T2 cards, that provide 10GBase-T Interfaces. As the only expansion you have is the PCIe Slot on the right, you could add 2 additional Ports. There are some modified X540 based cards, that provide 4 Ports, but I'm not sure how well they are supported or what about heat dissipation concerns, as those cards are longer and pretty densely packed.

    So 4 Ports (10GBase-T) is possible, with quite a bit of money and hope even 6 seem possible if it has to be the 10GBase-T (RJ45) style NICs.



  • @BlueKobold:

    Dual LAN via Intel® i350-AM2 1 Gigabit Ethernet
    Dual LAN via SoC 10GBase-T
    1x Realtek RTL8201N PHY (dedicated IPMI)

    Oh, I see this was my false, there are two RJ45 GB LAN (1 GBit/s) Ports and
    two 10 GbE RJ45 (10 GBit/s) Ports and one RJ45 IPMI port (1 GBit/s)!
    Additional only over the PCIe card option.

    @JeGr:

    There is the Intel X540 T1/T2 cards, that provide 10GBase-T Interfaces. As the only expansion you have is the PCIe Slot on the right, you could add 2 additional Ports. There are some modified X540 based cards, that provide 4 Ports, but I'm not sure how well they are supported or what about heat dissipation concerns, as those cards are longer and pretty densely packed.

    So 4 Ports (10GBase-T) is possible, with quite a bit of money and hope even 6 seem possible if it has to be the 10GBase-T (RJ45) style NICs.

    Ah alright then thanks for clearing this up guys!

    Side question: Are there plans for NetGate to come out with a newer Firewall Gateway soon that might have 10GbE ports for everything? So you could have 4 without needed to buy a card and 6, 10GbE ports with a card? Just curious.  ;D



  • Side question: Are there plans for NetGate to come out with a newer Firewall Gateway soon that might have 10GbE ports for everything?

    ADI Engineering is constructing the hardware that Netgate is selling then, but as today this
    hardware will be also available from the pfSense store. Netgate (ADI) are supporting pfSense
    since a long time.

    So you could have 4 without needed to buy a card and 6, 10GbE ports with a card? Just curious.  ;D

    BCC-VE: Xeon-D I don´t know if we will that device someday in the Netgate or ADI shop but it is able to realize.
    How many money do you want to spend? Or what is your budget?



  • @BlueKobold:

    BCC-VE: Xeon-D I don´t know if we will that device someday in the Netgate or ADI shop but it is able to realize.

    Well that is a interesting looking device! I'm assuming you could load what ever firewall solution you like on that board including pfSense correct?
    @BlueKobold:

    How many money do you want to spend? Or what is your budget?

    I guess you could say the budget would be around that of what the XG-1541 is costing currently. It would be nice if I could keep it under $2,000 but I don't know how well that will work when I'm asking for 6 10GbE ports.  ::)


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    Side question: Are there plans for NetGate to come out with a newer Firewall Gateway soon that might have 10GbE ports for everything?
    ADI Engineering is constructing the hardware that Netgate is selling then, but as today this

    That's not completely right. The XG Series 1U Units are IMHO rebranded Supermicro Superservers. We got the same from our Supermicro Vendor with the exactly same NIC layout as the pfSense ones, so I assume one has to ask Supermicro why for example die 1518 Unit has 2 SFP+ Ports 10GE and the 1540 (as sold by pfSense) has 2 RJ45 10G Ports… would be nice to have more options though.