Web Managed Switch Recommendations? (USED)

johnpoz

So just moved one of my AP to the tplink switch.. And yeah showing bad pkts on both the uplink to my other switch (port 1) and the AP port 4..

Hmmm.. Now to figure out what it is marking as the bad packets..

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n3by

TL-SG108E used now just as dumb switch without VLANs:

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pfBasic

@johnpoz:

So just moved one of my AP to the tplink switch.. And yeah showing bad pkts on both the uplink to my other switch (port 1) and the AP port 4..

Hmmm.. Now to figure out what it is marking as the bad packets..

Very interesting, thank you again for taking your time to check this out!

johnpoz

I did not see any issues with any of my traffic on this switch.. It just seems to be cosmetic.. I think its marking tagged packets as bad or something but just passing them on anyway.

Seems to have been a cosmetic issue going all the way back to 2015.. V1 of the hardware.
http://forum.tp-link.com/showthread.php?83046-High-RxBadPkt-on-TL-SG108E

This weekend I can do some more testing, the lack of being able to remove vlan 1 from a port just seems wrong. But not like you can't work with it. vlan 1 is nothing but an untagged vlan, doesn't really matter what the ID of that vlan is if untagged ;) So in your network it could be any other vlan ID since its untagged.

I will connect a device to one of the ports and generate a specific number of tagged packets and see if matches up to the counter for rxbadpkt..

pfBasic

Well, I ultimately ended up spending a bit more and replacing my TPlink with a Zyxel GS1900-8HP (rev. B1). It was at the top of several review lists, has a lot of features and seems to be regularly maintained by zyxel.
https://www.amazon.com/ZyXEL-8-Port-Gigabit-Ethernet-Managed/dp/B00GU1KULM
Youtube Video

$99 got me
70W PoE over all 8 ports
Fanless
A whole lot more management options than the TPlink (apparently it even supports CLI if you prefer that).
No more errors with VLANs and AP's
Port security features
(haven't tried LACP yet but will tonight or tomorrow, that didn't work on the TPlink but might just have been my fault.)

As far as packet errors go, it doesn't seem to have any errors although it does show a LOT more info about packets and I haven't found a list defining all of these things yet.


Port 3 Interface mib Counters
ifInOctets		193064453
ifInUcastPkts		1040622
ifInNUcastPkts		25277
ifInDiscards		0
ifOutOctets		3580667467
ifOutUcastPkts		2662483
ifOutNUcastPkts		42464
ifOutDiscards		0
ifInMulticastPkts		13033
ifInBroadcastPkts		12244
ifOutMulticastPkts		40423
ifOutBroadcastPkts		2041

Port 3 Etherlike mib Counters
dot3StatsAlignmentErrors		0
dot3StatsFCSErrors		0
dot3StatsSingleCollisionFrames		0
dot3StatsMultipleCollisionFrames		0
dot3StatsDeferredTransmissions		0
dot3StatsLateCollisions		0
dot3StatsExcessiveCollisions		0
dot3StatsFrameTooLongs		0
dot3StatsSymbolErrors		0
dot3ControlInUnknownOpcodes		0
dot3InPauseFrames		0
dot3OutPauseFrames		0

Port 3 RMON mib Counters
etherStatsDropEvents		0
etherStatsOctets		193064453
etherStatsPkts		1065899
etherStatsBroadcastPkts		12244
etherStatsMulticastPkts		13033
etherStatsCRCAlignErrors		0
etherStatsUnderSizePkts		0
etherStatsOverSizePkts		913897
etherStatsFragments		0
etherStatsJabbers		0
etherStatsCollisions		0
etherStatsPkts64Octets		87730
etherStatsPkts65to127Octets		851661
etherStatsPkts128to255Octets		18500
etherStatsPkts256to511Octets		21092
etherStatsPkts512to1023Octets		18395

johnpoz

If your going to spend 100$ and you have unifi AP why would you not just have gotten the unifi switch? Even though looks like nice price point and way more features than the tplink stuff, looks to support syslog and snmp and lldp.. Nice..

This is weekend was Derby - so didn't get to do anything on the switch.. But sure just looks to be cosmetic errors is all.. Have seen zero issue with anything..

MontTech

I'll second the Cisco SG300/500 line…..Have several hundred of them in our network and little to no issues.

pfBasic

The ubiquiti switch looks great, the reason I went with the zyxel is it looked like it offered the most features at the lowest price point.

The ubiquiti switch looked to me like it offered:

Less PoE budget
Less PoE ports

Excellent customer support
Better GUI
Better brand name

Ultimately I was already going over what I wanted to spend by getting the Zyxel so I didn't want to spend $10 more.

It seems like the zyxel checks a lot of the boxes and offers a lot at a great price point. Right now I only "need" the one PoE port, but I'll be moving relatively soon and probably adding another AP, and in the future probably 1-2 IP cams and possibly VOIP. My network will eventually outgrow 8 ports but for now I thought having >4 ports of PoE might last me longer. And even when I outgrow the 8 ports I'm thinking I could just connect to a larger switch and use up to 7 of the ports as PoE?

johnpoz

Having POE on your switch is not a requirement for AP, Camera's, phones - etc… You really should be able to just use injectors..

That switch is only poe, not poe+ right? And doesn't do passive 24v that the non pro models of the unifi AP use. So your going to just add Pro models? If your talking budget the unifi lite models are better price point.

While sure using POE makes for cleaner look, and less power plugs needed by your switch. Its not normally something you go for when budget is of concern. If were going for a poe switch would make sure it support at and af, and then passive 24 would be icing on the cake if using unifi. If was me I would of gotten the 200-300$ 8-16 port poe switch from unifi. Does 802.3af/at and passive on all ports with 150w available..

But does look like a very reasonable price point with way more features than the tplink that is for sure.. Let us know how it works out once you get playing with some of the other features like rmon and snmp and syslog support.

pfBasic

It says it supports at and af, I didn't see anything about 24v passive though.
I was planning on adding AC Pros, but honestly I didn't research the PoE compatibility. I just got lucky and the pro works on it.

PoE want initially something I cared about, but when the TPlink didn't really work out for me I wanted to replace it with something that had a few more features.
It was nice taking away a power cable and an Ethernet cable :) but yeah certainly not a necessity.

johnpoz

Ah the wording on the amazon page was a bit hazy.. But from the spec site it does show both
https://www.zyxel.com/products_services/8-10-16-24-48-port-GbE-Smart-Managed-Switch-GS1900-Series/
IEEE 802.3af PoE (GS1900-8HP/10HP/24HP/48HP)
IEEE 802.3at PoE plus (GS1900-8HP/10HP/24HP/48HP)

But on the amazon site it just says
High-power PoE+ support IEEE 802.3at (70W Budget)

Looks like a pretty good choice.. Have fun with it!!!