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    So I got a little carried away…

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      Finger79
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      Larrikin, welcome to the community!

      I built an overkill system in late 2013 for my use case, as my first entry into the pfSense world.  2U Rosewill case, Intel Xeon Haswell @ 3.1GHz, 16GB ECC RAM, Seasoninc 80+ Gold 360 Watt PSU, Supermicro motherboard with 4 on-board Intel NICs… All for about $700.  I got so carried away with "future-proofing" my setup that I didn't really care about the silliness of a system idling at 50 Watts vs. building something that idles at 7-15 Watts.  Now with all my lessons learned, the server appliance I built (and am currently still using) would be better suited for actual server purposes -- I'm thinking about Nextcloud -- and not my SOHO use case.  In other words:  this server is just chewing up electricity and money, and even at "load" it's still throttled down to like 800 MHz.  I can't tax this system even if I tried!

      One of my biggest lessons learned was to spec the system's PSU as close to the actual power consumption as possible.  So even though the Seasonic 360 Watt PSU I got is super eficient, the system uses like 50 Watts or so, so it's nowhere near efficient, and I end up wasting electricity.  I'm looking into DC power supplies for my next build like the picoPSU 80 Watt or some other DC 5 volt power supply that goes straight into a Supermicro motherboard.

      I'm jonesin'g to build my 2nd pfSense rig, and since I'm nowhere near "needing" a high-speed ISP connection (I was perfectly happy with my 5/1 Mbps cable connection for years... streams 1080p fine) that my next rig is going for quiet and low power.  I'm looking at the newer 6-port appliances that Netgate is planning on releasing in the coming months, or I may just build my own mini-ITX system.

      The components you chose for your system are fantastic for a gaming rig.  Gaming motherboard, Kaby Lake i7 CPU, crazy power supply, ATX case, fantastic Samsung 850 EVO SSD.  Just need to add a good GPU, and assuming you have good monitors, speakers, headphones, keyboard, mouse, you're all set for a fantastic gaming system or prosumer workstation.

      Sure, if you use it for pfSense, even 5 years from now you won't come close to using the capacity of the components you chose.

      It's a different ball game.  Soon you may wish you went with a 1U or 2U rackmount server case or maybe a mini-ITX form factor and something you could easily rackmount in your home "data center."  A bunch of gaming ATX boxes just take up space, honestly.

      "Form follows function."

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        " Convert that into AUD, and then our import duties plus tax, it comes up just short of AUD $2k"

        How is that??  It's $750 USD which is ok about 1K AUD.. Your saying to ship it and pay tax it would be another 1k AUD??  I really find that hard to believe..  Whats the GST 10% lets call shipping 75 AUD.. your at more like 1.2K AUD  not anywhere close to 2k..

        Seems you are just as bad at math as you are at picking out hardware for a firewall ;)  Sorry just couldn't help myself.. Too easy! ;)

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          Larrikin
          last edited by

          @johnpoz:

          " Convert that into AUD, and then our import duties plus tax, it comes up just short of AUD $2k"

          How is that??  It's $750 USD which is ok about 1K AUD.. Your saying to ship it and pay tax it would be another 1k AUD??  I really find that hard to believe..  Whats the GST 10% lets call shipping 75 AUD.. your at more like 1.2K AUD  not anywhere close to 2k..

          Seems you are just as bad at math as you are at picking out hardware for a firewall ;)  Sorry just couldn't help myself.. Too easy! ;)

          It is US$848 with the SSD
          Shipping is US $52.65
          Total: US$900.65
          Equals: AUD$1220 + bank fees which is therefore AUD$1230

          Now add import duties plus GST

          AUD$250.00 (see http://dutycalculator.com/new-import-duty-and-tax-calculation)

          Landed Cost: AUD$1480

          So for a few dollars more, I get a much higher spec'd hardware.

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            damir
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            How about a 'picture' of this pfBeastSense  ::)

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              1500 is not 2100.. That is for sure… so my point of bad math stands ;)

              "So for a few dollars more"  40% more of 1500 is not a few dollars more - hehehe..  For a few dollars more I can get the Mulsanne vs the Flying Spur as well...

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                Larrikin
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                @johnpoz:

                1500 is not 2100.. That is for sure… so my point of bad math stands ;)

                "So for a few dollars more"  40% more of 1500 is not a few dollars more - hehehe..  For a few dollars more I can get the Mulsanne vs the Flying Spur as well...

                What does the title of this thread say?  :)

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                  whosmatt
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                  @Larrikin:

                  What does the title of this thread say?  :)

                  It's a bit of an understatement.  I think what people are trying to tell you is that there is no scenario where your hardware choices for a pfSense appliance make sense to any of us.  Of course you can build a system that outclasses the SG-4860 (or nearly any device you can buy off the shelf) as far as raw performance is concerned.  You could have done that for probably 1/4 of what you spent.

                  If you want to actually put your hardware to some good use (rather than it sitting more than 90% idle nearly 100% of the time) consider running a hypervisor on it.  You could have pfSense + an entire home lab's worth of other VMs running with no performance penalty to pfSense.

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