MBT-4220 (Minnowboard dual ethernet) housing/casing?



  • I'm looking at an MBT-4220 board and it seems the only way to get a case with it is to buy the full assembled kit from Netgate (at $100 extra).

    As the response I got from Netgate was pretty conclusive (No plans to offer it separately), does anyone in the community know where to pickup a housing/casing for a minnowboard dual ethernet board?



  • No housing exists. It's custom and new ;-)

    You can make one yourself, or just put it in a large enough box that you can have the cables inside as well.



  • Ahh, but one does exist! Direct from Netgate themselves.

    You just have to buy the full system - so for a $100 premium I get a case and a small SSD. I can't justify that which is why I was looking to see if Netgate plan to make it available as an add-on much like when you buy a normal minnowboard ($19 add-on).



  • Well, they had someone design a metal cutting and folding design and then sent it off to a production plant that makes it happen and probably powder coat/paint it etc. That means they own it and can do whatever they want with it, including not selling it separately.



  • https://minnowboard.org/get-a-board

    This is the official website, which has many resources on it, aside from the hardware related questions. It also has some walkthroughs for BIOS and common OS installations etc.


  • Galactic Empire

    @biohead:

    I'm looking at an MBT-4220 board and it seems the only way to get a case with it is to buy the full assembled kit from Netgate (at $100 extra).

    As the response I got from Netgate was pretty conclusive (No plans to offer it separately), does anyone in the community know where to pickup a housing/casing for a minnowboard dual ethernet board?

    @biohead:

    Ahh, but one does exist! Direct from Netgate themselves.

    You just have to buy the full system - so for a $100 premium I get a case and a small SSD. I can't justify that which is why I was looking to see if Netgate plan to make it available as an add-on much like when you buy a normal minnowboard ($19 add-on).

    Where's the $100 premium you talk about?


  • Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate

    The Minnowboard Turbot Dual-E board alone is $171.39 (from Netgate or Mouser)

    System from Netgate is $249.00. Difference is $77.61

    For that $77.61 you get:

    • A case
    • A 32GB M.2 SSD
    • A power supply + cord
    • A system that has been assembled and tested and known to work

    Sounds like a bargain to me. It's not $100, and the premium is not just for the case.

    If you already have a board, PSU, and storage and just want the case, your primary option left is 3D printing or otherwise crafting your own. But at least to me, that amount of work and filament is probably not worth my time compared to buying a system unless I needed to make custom mods.



  • I was looking at the quad core MBT4220 system, not the dual core MBT2220.  The price difference for that one is almost $155 (so $100 was being generous in my original post).

    The MBT-4220 board from Netgate is $195.58.
    The MBT-4220 system is $350.

    Don't get me wrong, I want to go down the supported hardware route but am I missing something? Why would the same case, the same 32GB SSD and (likely the same rating) PSU command double the premium between the dual and quad core systems?

    I agree, $77 is a good deal - but the same can't be said for $155.

    What makes it worse is I'm in the UK so I have to consider import tax too (not Netgate's fault, but I have to consider it for the total price).



  • @biohead:

    I was looking at the quad core MBT4220 system, not the dual core MBT2220.  The price difference for that one is almost $155 (so $100 was being generous in my original post).

    The MBT-4220 board from Netgate is $195.58.
    The MBT-4220 system is $350.

    Don't get me wrong, I want to go down the supported hardware route but am I missing something? Why would the same case, the same 32GB SSD and (likely the same rating) PSU command double the premium between the dual and quad core systems?

    I agree, $77 is a good deal - but the same can't be said for $155.

    What makes it worse is I'm in the UK so I have to consider import tax too (not Netgate's fault, but I have to consider it for the total price).

    Pricing is rarely just a matter of parts+investment. There is cost everywhere, logistics, supply chain, legal, administrative, support, testing etc. On top of that, if you have different units, you often see the cheap ones sold under cost, with the hopes of the more expensive unit sales making up for lost income.

    I have no clue what Netgate is up to with the pricing scheme, but I doubt it was simply a matter of 'lets add 100 on top of the base price for an identical unit with just a 10 bucks more expensive SoC'.



  • The MBT-4220 board from Netgate is $195.58.
    The MBT-4220 system is $350.

    Please have a look for the brand new SG-3100! Its able to get for ~$350 from the netgate store or plain for ~430 €
    from voleatech europe and also similar likes the minnowturbot board if we talk about a pfSense installation this might
    be perhaps a better deal, or am I wrong with that.

    Why would the same case, the same 32GB SSD and (likely the same rating) PSU command double the premium between the dual and quad core systems?

    It can be different but then the next customer is asking another question!

    I agree, $77 is a good deal - but the same can't be said for $155.

    I saw or found the following parts:

    Difference is here $77,61 and there fore you get the psu, 32 GB SSD and a case, nothing wrong with it as I see it right.

    Difference is now $155 but the same psu 32 GB SSD and case.


    please let us both now thinking about that they (netgate or the pfsense development team) will be or must be get something
    on top of all devices such the both named here by you. And let us now think about the both very small differences based on
    the dual core cpu vs the quad core cpu and you are willing to buy now a dual core cpu bundled system and you have to pay
    the same amount on top of your unit likes the dual core cpu unit, what you are thinking is then written by the customers???

    Why I have to pay on top of this smaller unit the same "fee" or contribution as the guy who is buying the greater unit, this is
    not fair! And so they where splitting it to a less fee for the smaller unit and a greater fee for the greater unit, nothing more.

    For sure this can be also based on other or different points, like the smaller units will be not so hard on sale and the bigger
    ones a running to fast out of stock and they (netgate) will be pushing that in another direction by taking more or less fee.

    So we will never really able to get an answer why or why not this will be like it is and for sure this can be also based on many
    other points and arguments. If there must be in former days something like $99 on top of all devices, it makes sense for
    me that they (netgate) perhaps now have split this fee.

    One port dual core + $55
    Dual port dual core +$77
    Dual port quad core + $155

    Makes then all in all or total $287 and so they walk to us and it is total $23 fee they (netgate) where taking!
    Or do you not consider and you may prefer to pay $99 on each device from them?

    What makes it worse is I'm in the UK so I have to consider import tax too (not Netgate's fault, but I have to consider it for the total price).

    This might be also not being less or lower buying it at a partner such voleatech, they take more units for less money
    and save perhaps here and there something at the tax, but need to sale this units to get on top their income too.


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