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      jriofrio @stephenw10
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      @stephenw10 .... I went to check the cable to see in the rj45 how many connections are, well 4 for sure and 3 more that are not very clear.
      I have a cable that I will try tomorrow. It is an old Cisco cable with rj45 at one end and a db9 at the other. My old workstation Dell precision has serial db9 connection, will see if that will allow me to see the BIOS boot up output.
      Fingers crossed....

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        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Ok I read back through the thread here and it's been too many years and too many box variations but looks like console redirect is not enabled by default so you won't see any BIOS output. The first thing you see is from the bootloader as you found.

        But that tinycore image should work. I used that to flash an m500 not that long ago. How did you write it out to CF?

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          jriofrio @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10 .... Well, I tried with the USB at first then I tried with the CF card. I used Rufus first in both, didn't work so I used belena etcher and last I used a piberry image writter with the USB and CF card. I also tried the tylinux in the USB and CF card... No joy. I used 2 different USB sticks and 2 different CF cards... Nothing, nada, zilch...

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Yeah it won't boot USB by default, you have to use CF.

            Do you hear it beep like it's booting? Try using Etcher to write the image.

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              jriofrio @stephenw10
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              @stephenw10 ... Yes. I do hear a couple beeps with either USB or CF card. As I mentioned earlier I did used etcher too.

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                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                Hmm, well I just tested here on an m400 I have that still has the original BIOS and that tinycore image does boot. I had to try 2 CF cards though. I can only suggest trying a different card.

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                  jriofrio @stephenw10
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                  @stephenw10 ... Will do, I will get a new CF card and use etcher too... Hope it works.

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                    gilphilbert @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10 @jriofrio If I remember correctly, I had to flash the tinylinux image onto the orignal CF card to get the machine to boot from it. I tried other CF cards but it wouldn't boot from them until I flashed the BIOS. Once it was flashed, the machine will boot from anything. You won't see the BIOS POST until it's flashed; the original BIOS doesn't output anything over serial, at least mine didn't!

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                      Mmm, you might just retry the CF cards you have I found it failed to boot the card I have a few times but did eventually boot it. No idea why. Cosmic rays perhaps!

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                        korenchkin @stephenw10
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                        @jriofrio some bioses can lock out 'unapproved' pci cards,i could guess there could be some kind of lockout for cf cards,so maybe trying the original (with verified backup)

                        as for autoexec.bat,that is something that dos starts after boot (since you are headless - no keyboard/monitor),this would work if it boots but don't show serial,there would be commands exactly as you type them manually...but hard to debug if you don't see anything,it could be asking for bios file,or wrong switch or telling bad command and you never know...so if you are certain what to type with paths,you can try this,i bet there is switch to 'reset/reboot' after flashing,probably cmos clear parameter too,so you could wait for console (can't restart while flashing still works,so you need to be sure you can reset or wait long enough)

                        edit:cf cards also have some modes of operation(udma,pio),so maybe it just can't talk correctly to that asmedia sata bridge(asmedia are not that great,sensitive to firmware versions-talking from experience with theirs usb-sata bridges,i don't trust them),so best could be sticking to the original..maybe even adding floppy image as image to grub,that could work,but requires a bit of linux/booting knowledge,i think there must be some loader too,not sure

                        edit2:i finally looked at your image(sorry,too much up,didn't read it all),when it boots,you should see it there i believe,this kinda looks like it is really not booting,so getting into grub seems like great idea,maybe allowing editing for starters...(need to do in grub.cfg probably on cf /boot/grub.cfg or menu.lst)

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