• Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login
Netgate Discussion Forum
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • Users
  • Search
  • Register
  • Login

Help? netgate router is receving frequent Gateway alarms & resetting causing lost connections

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved Off-Topic & Non-Support Discussion
22 Posts 7 Posters 14.5k Views
Loading More Posts
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • R
    r0sebush
    last edited by Oct 1, 2018, 2:40 AM

    @raellic This is something I was going to try too. Because I don't remember seeing this issues with a non-netgate router. I used to have a custom PC running pfsense & don't recall seeing these issues.

    Thank you.

    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
    • D
      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
      last edited by Oct 1, 2018, 2:42 AM

      The buffering is almost certainly at the ISP, not in pfSense. I say this because without shaping enabled (the default) there are very few buffers. None that would cause 1000ms of latency.

      Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
      A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
      DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
      Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

      R 1 Reply Last reply Oct 2, 2018, 2:31 AM Reply Quote 0
      • R
        r0sebush @Derelict
        last edited by Oct 2, 2018, 2:31 AM

        @derelict
        @johnpoz I've set the monitor of gateway to NOT action on issues, but it appears that something is happening, extreme lag is occurring on my connection. The below output status actually cased the connection to lag:

        Oct 1 21:55:24 dpinger WAN_DHCP 75.133.112.1: Alarm latency 9423us stddev 1594us loss 21%
        Oct 1 21:56:42 dpinger WAN_DHCP 75.133.112.1: Clear latency 9486us stddev 1748us loss 5%
        Oct 1 21:57:19 dpinger WAN_DHCP 75.133.112.1: Alarm latency 9482us stddev 1888us loss 21%
        Oct 1 21:59:13 dpinger WAN_DHCP 75.133.112.1: Clear latency 9955us stddev 3258us loss 5%
        Oct 1 22:00:09 dpinger WAN_DHCP 75.133.112.1: Alarm latency 9197us stddev 2324us loss 21%
        Oct 1 22:01:39 dpinger WAN_DHCP 75.133.112.1: Clear latency 11927us stddev 5882us loss 5%

        NOt sure what else I need to tweak. My Traffer shaper upload has been set to 7MB/s out of 10MB/s. Still seeing laging, but no disconnections.

        R 1 Reply Last reply Oct 2, 2018, 8:22 PM Reply Quote 0
        • R
          r0sebush @r0sebush
          last edited by Oct 2, 2018, 8:22 PM

          @r0sebush
          My VPN session to my job got disconnected, even though I have the Perfrom Montier Action disabled...:
          Oct 2 16:20:07 dpinger WAN_DHCP 75.133.112.1: Alarm latency 7708us stddev 1903us loss 21%
          Oct 2 16:21:21 dpinger WAN_DHCP 75.133.112.1: Clear latency 7791us stddev 2353us loss 5%

          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
          • S
            Snowaks
            last edited by Oct 3, 2018, 2:20 AM

            Just curious what happens when you disable traffic shaping ? also Ive been a tech at many of the larger telecom's. Did the tech replace you Residential Gateway RG. Ive seen some hardware do stuff like this other router brands. Does it happen around the same time of day or night? if it rains out or gets really hot or any where in between hot or cold days?

            R 1 Reply Last reply Oct 3, 2018, 2:00 PM Reply Quote 0
            • R
              r0sebush @Snowaks
              last edited by Oct 3, 2018, 2:00 PM

              @snowaks I haven't tried it without traffic shaping. I'm using the Traffic shaping for my VOIP, it performs better & not impacted by other traffic (VPN, Gaming, surfing). I'll try to disable it, but I'd like to make sure my VOIP device is getting the necessary bandwidth, would I use a limiter for that?

              The issues occur or appears randomly. Maybe I should have my ISP (Spectrum) re-check the outside "box" on the pole. Since my inside wiring etc. is excellent & they already replaced the coax from the POLE to my house.

              Ugh. Too bad the techs at my ISP suck ass. I'd like to get the bottom of this & I'm leaning towards the ISP and something on there end, but hey like to deny shit.

              1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
              • J
                jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
                last edited by Oct 3, 2018, 4:04 PM

                Is your WAN DHCP? Since you said you had a Cable provider, it probably is.

                If so, check for this: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/8507#note-23

                Remember: Upvote with the 👍 button for any user/post you find to be helpful, informative, or deserving of recognition!

                Need help fast? Netgate Global Support!

                Do not Chat/PM for help!

                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                • S
                  Snowaks
                  last edited by Snowaks Oct 3, 2018, 4:51 PM Oct 3, 2018, 4:44 PM

                  Yes they do . Also they only give techs 30-60min to fix your problem kinda hard to trouble shoot a random problem that does not show up in 30mins. when it happens again try to connect direct to the RG/CMs and see if the packet loss problems are still there. That way you know where your problem is starting also it could be the RG and resting the connection could also fix it. I had this same problem happen to me 30% packet loss was a bad rg and premise amp. Coax also ages and the stuff from big box stores is cheaper then what charter would install. Have they replaced every thing from the Nid to your CM? if they have it could be something beyond your tap.

                  PS. What happens when you leave your mtu blank and do not set a value ?

                  R 1 Reply Last reply Oct 3, 2018, 8:41 PM Reply Quote 0
                  • R
                    r0sebush @Snowaks
                    last edited by Oct 3, 2018, 8:41 PM

                    @snowaks MTU for the WAN interface is blank by default. Same for LAN. But in the Status/interfaces, they're both 1500.

                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                    • R
                      r0sebush
                      last edited by Oct 6, 2018, 1:56 PM

                      Yesterday, I also noticed that I had UPn-P emabled. But I didn't configure any of the settings. So I disabled that yesterday (along with the disabled Gateway monitoring & monitor actions) and noticed that I didn't have any disconnections.
                      I also contacted my ISP to get somebody out today 10/6 , but they had a no-show.
                      I re-enabled the gateway monitoring (without the monitor action). Let's see if we get disconnections today or until they come out in a few days.

                      R 1 Reply Last reply Oct 16, 2018, 3:07 PM Reply Quote 0
                      • S
                        Snowaks
                        last edited by Oct 7, 2018, 3:47 PM

                        no show sounds like they are overbooking there techs again.

                        1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                        • R
                          r0sebush @r0sebush
                          last edited by Oct 16, 2018, 3:07 PM

                          @r0sebush update So Tech came out, but again.. they are somewhat useless, but he showed no issue on the line going from house to pole/amplifier, and from model to outside as well. Not enough time spent, due to their time limit allotted per customer.
                          I wonder if I have a bad wan Port on my netgate sg:2440. I still see disconnections, a little less than before. but nonetheless it happens.
                          I'm going to enable the opt1 line, and reconfigure firewall NAT etc. and outgoing filters to support opt1. Maybe this will remedy my stuff too..

                          I can't believe with a $200+ dollar router/firewall I have this kind of issue. I may just get another type of route, ubiquiti perhaps? I loved PFSense when I had it running a a custom build PC.... but the sg-2440, ugh... is this a defective model? should I buy the next one they're selling because the 2440 is end of life? WTF.

                          Oh well.. seems like I'm getting "it" from both ends.. Spectrum, with there lack of movement on getting me some network specialist to help me out VS the Netgate SG-2440 & how it's not really plug in play, but plug in guess how to re-configure your router for your SOHO... :) Maybe they're forcing me to buy one of their pfsense books, which I have....

                          peace.

                          1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                          • D
                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                            last edited by Derelict Oct 16, 2018, 4:02 PM Oct 16, 2018, 3:11 PM

                            Highly doubtful it is hardware. You can blame the hardware for ISP issues all you want. Assign WAN to another port and connect the ISP there to check. You don't have to make a new port. Just reassign it to a different hardware interface in Interfaces > Assignments

                            Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                            A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                            DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                            Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

                            R 1 Reply Last reply Oct 17, 2018, 5:04 AM Reply Quote 0
                            • R
                              r0sebush @Derelict
                              last edited by Oct 17, 2018, 5:04 AM

                              @derelict Tried to change to opt1 port. The only issue I had before I could determine disconnects is that I couldn't nslookup from PC. Looks like DNS wasn't being served correct into my LAN from opt1 or the router.. even after a reboot.

                              Ugh. This is annoying. Thanks for you input, maybe i can research about getting DNS working on OPT1 -> LAN... WAN->LAN works no issue but still get disconnects. (with our without Traffic shaper enabled or disabled.)

                              What I don't understand is that even though I have WAN moniter disabled & do do actions, the system still disconnects some sessions ,like my VPN to work. Problem exists, not sure if Specturm support would escalete to manager. Maybe this is what I need, since Tech/linesmen can't help with this kind of problem.

                              B 1 Reply Last reply Sep 17, 2019, 11:10 PM Reply Quote 0
                              • B
                                BrucexLing @r0sebush
                                last edited by Sep 17, 2019, 11:10 PM

                                @r0sebush Just wondering if this ever got sorted. It would be good to know.

                                1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                • raellicR
                                  raellic
                                  last edited by Sep 17, 2019, 11:16 PM

                                  Shockingly, the CPU on my system ended up being defective! Lol. I replaced the motherboard/CPU and haven't had a problem ever since.

                                  1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                  • chpalmerC
                                    chpalmer
                                    last edited by Sep 17, 2019, 11:28 PM

                                    This post is deleted!
                                    1 Reply Last reply Reply Quote 0
                                    • V vdsadmin referenced this topic on Mar 21, 2025, 4:45 PM
                                    • First post
                                      Last post
                                    Copyright 2025 Rubicon Communications LLC (Netgate). All rights reserved.
                                      [[user:consent.lead]]
                                      [[user:consent.not_received]]