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How to assign Domain Controller to VLAN Systems

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    slkamath @johnpoz
    last edited by Sep 30, 2018, 1:38 PM

    @johnpoz
    Thank you very much.

    What i understood was it will check 1st rule if it is not matching will go to 2nd like that so on. If the rule is not specified or not matching i thought it will be blocked. 😇

    Based on the idea given by you i have did few changes. Please correct me if i am wrong.

    Fin-VLAN
    0_1538314108468_Fin-VLAN.png

    Marketing-VLAN
    0_1538314140084_Marketing VLAN.png

    Purchase-VLAN
    0_1538314165255_Purchase VLAN.png

    Quality-VLAN
    0_1538314175450_Quality VLAN.png

    Allow Specific Sites are the sites of Government Sites which is required for few departments. Due to block of News & Social Media (Squid Guard) few sites will not work so created alias and allowing it (Don't know this is right or wrong).

    I thought if the rule is not specified means it will reject directly. No idea how to reject other than that. I think I am having very poor knowledge. 😖

    Lokesh Kamath

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @slkamath
      last edited by johnpoz Sep 30, 2018, 3:12 PM Sep 30, 2018, 3:08 PM

      @slkamath said in How to assign Domain Controller to VLAN Systems:

      What i understood was it will check 1st rule if it is not matching will go to 2nd like that so on.

      Exactly - but what is the point of allowing X, above a rule that allows ALL? And blocking something below a rule that allow ALL will never be evaluated.

      And yes there is a default deny that is not shown - so if you run through your rules and its not allowed then it will be blocked.

      Your block rules on the end of your quality net are pointless.. They would just be blocked by the default deny if not allowed above. So unless you wanted to specifically log them or reject them vs just deny those rules are pointless.

      What option do you have set in that allow to lan net? The gear symbol. That rule makes no sense because it allows all lan net, so what is the point of allowing to a specific lan IP?

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        slkamath @johnpoz
        last edited by Sep 30, 2018, 4:47 PM

        @johnpoz
        Thank you very much.

        How to put default deny rule (please find the pic below is it correct)?

        Again did some changes.

        Quality-VLAN
        0_1538325663826_Quality VLAN.png

        Gear Symbol is for Upload & Download limit set so it shows that symbol. In LAN there are nearly 10 IP's. All VLAN has to access those IP's (Shared Folder, Network Printer, Backup, Domain Controller, Tally).

        LAN
        0_1538325683153_LAN.png

        Can you suggest any book or something so that i will get some knowledge to make it correct.

        Lokesh Kamath

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          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
          last edited by Sep 30, 2018, 6:08 PM

          I suggest reading this chapter from the pfSense book:
          https://www.netgate.com/docs/pfsense/book/firewall/firewall-fundamentals.html

          Steve

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            slkamath @stephenw10
            last edited by Sep 30, 2018, 6:09 PM

            @stephenw10
            Thank you Stephen.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by johnpoz Oct 1, 2018, 11:04 AM Oct 1, 2018, 11:02 AM

              Did you post the wrong pic - your qual ne has the block rfc1918 and bogon again..

              Your lan rules everything below your any any is just pointless!! Not sure why this is so difficult to understand..

              Imagine a source IP:PORT and DESTIP:PORT and protocol - now run through your rules top to bottom.

              You have an ANY ANY rule - any protocol and source any dest.. So when would that rule not trigger and get to the safe_IP rule??

              When would something not trigger that any any rule and fall through to your block rules? Your any any allows ANY, so
              clearly ports 80 and 443 are part of ANY..

              If you don't want IPs getting to 80/443 then those rules go ABOVE your any any rule.. Those will then be blocked and other ports like say 123 would not trigger those rules and be allowed through the any any rule.

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                slkamath @johnpoz
                last edited by slkamath Oct 3, 2018, 8:35 AM Oct 3, 2018, 8:31 AM

                @johnpoz
                Thank you Very Much

                Sorry for the delay.

                I made few changes. Please have a look. Also any mistake please guide me.

                LAN - Allow Browsing is only for 5 IP's
                0_1538554995442_LAN.png

                LAN-UPDATED
                0_1538555698922_LAN.png

                Fin-VLAN
                0_1538555019321_Fin-VLAN.png

                Marketing-VLAN
                0_1538555032187_Marketing-VLAN.png

                Quality-VLAN
                0_1538555045354_Quality-VLAN.png

                One more issue that i am facing is
                All the VLAN systems need to Disable & Enable the network to Send/Receive Mails or Accessing Shared Folder else share folder or mails will not work. (timeline of 2 to 5 min we need to disable & enable network)
                Where I need to change this?

                Lokesh Kamath

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                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by Oct 3, 2018, 4:23 PM

                  Looks like you still have an allow all rule on the Fin-VLAN interface that will catch all traffic before it hits any of the other rules.

                  Steve

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                    slkamath @stephenw10
                    last edited by Oct 3, 2018, 6:34 PM

                    @stephenw10
                    Thank you Stephen.

                    I will change the Fin-VLAN. Thanks. Other VLAN is correct?

                    Lokeh Kamath

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                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by Oct 3, 2018, 7:09 PM

                      Well they don't look immediately wrong. Without knowing exactly what you need to do I can't say more than that.

                      Steve

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                        slkamath @stephenw10
                        last edited by Oct 4, 2018, 5:46 AM

                        @stephenw10

                        Thank You Very Much Steve.

                        One more issue that i am facing is
                        All the VLAN systems need to Disable & Enable the network to Send/Receive Mails or Accessing Shared Folder else share folder or mails will not work. (timeline of 2 to 5 min we need to disable & enable network) Where I need to change this?

                        Lokesh Kamath

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                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by Oct 4, 2018, 5:16 PM

                          That does not seem like a pfSense setting.

                          Where are you enabling/disabling that?

                          Can they still reach websites etc without doing that?

                          Steve

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                            slkamath @stephenw10
                            last edited by Oct 4, 2018, 5:53 PM

                            @stephenw10
                            Thank you Steve.

                            Without enable / Disable they cant use internet, mails, shared folder. In LAN there is no issue.

                            We are enabling / disabling in Client System Network.

                            Lokesh Kamath

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by Oct 4, 2018, 6:05 PM

                              that makes ZERO sense and has zero to do with pfsense.. Is your client getting a different IP, new info like dns, etc.. Pointing to pfsense when it wasn't before, etc.

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                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by Oct 4, 2018, 8:18 PM

                                Mmm, I could believe it was a rogue dhcp server setting a bad gateway.

                                Steve

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                                  slkamath @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Oct 5, 2018, 3:57 AM

                                  @stephenw10
                                  Thank you very much Steve.

                                  I have not mentioned any Gateway in DHCP Server.

                                  Please find the below pictures.

                                  FIN-DHCP
                                  0_1538711320458_Finance DHCP.png

                                  FIN-DNS-GATEWAY
                                  0_1538711437781_DNS & Gateway.png

                                  Marketing DHCP
                                  0_1538711447104_Marketing DHCP.png

                                  Marketing-DNS-GATEWAY
                                  0_1538711458922_DNS & Gateway.png

                                  Purchase-DHCP
                                  0_1538711509385_Purchase DHCP.png

                                  Purchase-DNS-GATEWAY
                                  0_1538711518611_DNS & Gateway.png

                                  Moulding-DHCP
                                  0_1538711527342_Moulding DHCP.png

                                  Moulding-DNS-GATEWAY
                                  0_1538711535242_DNS & Gateway.png

                                  Quality_DHCP
                                  0_1538711544623_Quality DHCP.png

                                  Quality-DNS-GATEWAY
                                  0_1538711553691_DNS & Gateway.png

                                  Should I Specify Gateway? If Yes pfSense LAN IP is the Gateway right. Also Should I add pfSense LAN IP in Gateway (Routing - Gateway)?

                                  Lokesh Kamath

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                                    slkamath @slkamath
                                    last edited by slkamath Oct 5, 2018, 5:35 AM Oct 5, 2018, 5:33 AM

                                    @stephenw10
                                    Thank you very much Steve.

                                    I had given Gateway as mentioned below to each VLAN, but not mentioned in Routing - Gateways Please guide me if anything wrong.

                                    Marketing DNS-GATEWAY
                                    0_1538717584757_Marketing DNS & Gateway.png

                                    Purchase DNS-GATEWAY
                                    0_1538717591964_Purchase DNS & Gateway.png

                                    Moulding DNS-GATEWAY
                                    0_1538717603411_Moulding DNS & Gateway.png

                                    Quality DNS-GATEWAY
                                    0_1538717687591_Quality DNS & Gateway.png

                                    Lokesh Kamath

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by johnpoz Oct 5, 2018, 10:18 AM Oct 5, 2018, 10:17 AM

                                      Dude who told you to put in a gateway - there is ZERO reason to do that. What he stated was there might a ROGUE dhcp server handing out the WRONG info!!

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                                        slkamath @johnpoz
                                        last edited by Oct 5, 2018, 1:09 PM

                                        @johnpoz
                                        Thank you very much John.

                                        I will remove that immediately.

                                        @johnpoz, @stephenw10
                                        I do not have any idea on that. please guide me.

                                        Lokesh Kamath

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                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by Oct 5, 2018, 1:16 PM

                                          Before you go restarting your machines interfaces when something doesn't work... How about you troubleshoot WHY!!!

                                          Are these machines windows? If so then simple

                                          ipconfig /all

                                          from cmd prompt will give you all the info for networking.. Does it show the proper info, what does it show for your dhcp server?

                                          Can machine ping the box your trying to talk to for smtp? Can it resolve its FQDN? Where is this smtp server in your network? Is it outside your network?

                                          An intelligent man is sometimes forced to be drunk to spend time with his fools
                                          If you get confused: Listen to the Music Play
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