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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      @bolvar said in HA XMLRPC error:

      There are no default deny rule in my ha interface

      All interfaces have a default deny, its just not shown in the gui

      All of that traffic is out of state anyway - so yeah would be blocked. Notice the A in the flags of the traffic.. Those are Fin, Ack and even see one RST, Ack..

      If there is no state, then traffic is blocked - unless its a SYN which would open a new state if the rules allow the traffic.

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        bolvar @johnpoz
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        @johnpoz

        Hmm okey, but if i made a rule for this problem, why dont it workes?

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          Not sure what you think the problem is, that traffic is not syn.. Its out of state via the A... What rule are you creating? One that allows out of state traffic? That would be not a fix to why the traffic is out of state.

          Out of state traffic can be a sign of asymmetrical traffic, it can be indication that states have been reset, etc. There are many things that "could" cause it.. You need to look to why the traffic is out of state.

          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/firewall/troubleshooting-blocked-log-entries-for-legitimate-connection-packets.html

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            bolvar @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz

            Yeah im not a pro in pfsense thats true :D. The problem is what i dont understand in the link says that the pocket lost, and it send its again, but how can this be posible, its a direct cable.

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              because it didn't get an answer, because its blocked by the firewall looks like ;)

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                bolvar @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz
                But why :D . I made a rule to communicate from the second to the primary, but it didnt solve the problem. Could the xmlrpc error came from this?

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                • johnpozJ
                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                  Are you seeing syn blocks? If you do not see a SYN in the blocks then your only out of state..

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                  • JeGrJ
                    JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator @bolvar
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                    @bolvar said in HA XMLRPC error:

                    @johnpoz
                    But why :D . I made a rule to communicate from the second to the primary, but it didnt solve the problem. Could the xmlrpc error came from this?

                    Because that indicates asymmetric traffic. Like you forcing it out to one interface instead of the one it should or would be taking. Then you end up with traffic that comes from/to an interface, that was not expected. You'd have to show your rules, gateways, routing etc. to see where that may come from. And why you have traffic from the firewall on port 80. Did you disable HTTPS for the WebUI?

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                    • johnpozJ
                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz

                      that is the sync traffic.. makes no sense that there would be any issues.. But as you stated we have no actual details of how he has everything configured or connected.

                      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/highavailability/configuring-high-availability.html

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                      • JeGrJ
                        JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
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                        Aye, if there's some "route everything via VPN" or other such tidbits in play, hell knows what hoops the traffic will hop through ;)

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                        • johnpozJ
                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                          Would seem odd it would send traffic out a vpn since its a directly attached interface.. Maybe he just need to restart the sync process? Not a lot of ha experience, but would seem almost impossible to mess up to be honest since it is suppose to be a dedicated connection via a wire between the 2 boxes.

                          But all of the traffic looks to be out of state, since there are no syn's blocked. And looks like something wanting to close the connection since there is Fin and RST even in there.

                          Are those outbound blocks, sure looks like it, just noticed that - see the little black arrows?

                          outboundblocks.png

                          That makes ZERO sense! So some floating rule, not sure how you could even do default deny rule outbound on an interface?

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                          • JeGrJ
                            JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
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                            Aye, we have quite some cluster customers, but never seen that on a Sync interface. The original error is one we have on 1-2 locations, too, though, but nothing with that kind of OOS traffic

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                              bolvar @johnpoz
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                              @johnpoz

                              What not make sense, is i think i have found the problem.

                              Under System/Routing/Gateways if i disable the Gateway Monitoring the problem gone...What the f**k.
                              At the sync he checks the interfaces states?

                              I have only 1 public ip, so on my wan interface i have a private ip.

                              The problem could came from this?

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                I have no idea how you would be getting outbound blocking? It does not do that out of the box - you must of put in a floating rule.

                                And you prob had something setup to flush states on gateway loss? Not sure why you would setup a gateway on your sync interface?? That makes no sense to do such a thing. What would you even set it too?

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                                  bolvar @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz

                                  There are no gw on the sync interface.
                                  I have no floating rule set up.
                                  So this is a big question how realy this ha workes, beacause now i feel the outdate-ed netgate video and setup is a crap.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                    last edited by johnpoz

                                    Very odd to be sure... I would hope someone with more HA experience could chime in.. While I have setup a HA for play in vm.. Never ran into such blocks..

                                    Is this the video your talking about?
                                    https://www.slideshare.net/NetgateUSA/high-availability-on-pfsense-24-pfsense-hangout-march-2017

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                      Nothing magical about XMLRPC sync. It's just a TCP/HTTPS connection to the webgui port on the secondary.

                                      I suppose on the sending node that could happen if something has killed the state.

                                      Do you have state killing on gateway failure enabled in System > Advanced, Miscellaneous?

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        But how/why would it be an outbound block?

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                          Sorry I updated ^

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                                          • johnpozJ
                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                            But I still don't get how it could be an outbound block - that is what the little black arrow thing means.. I have to think there is some setting that are done that are not default..

                                            I don't run HA setup, nor do I have it that setting set.. But seems odd that there could be outbound blocking even on a state kill?

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