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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      that is the sync traffic.. makes no sense that there would be any issues.. But as you stated we have no actual details of how he has everything configured or connected.

      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/highavailability/configuring-high-availability.html

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      • JeGrJ
        JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
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        Aye, if there's some "route everything via VPN" or other such tidbits in play, hell knows what hoops the traffic will hop through ;)

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz

          Would seem odd it would send traffic out a vpn since its a directly attached interface.. Maybe he just need to restart the sync process? Not a lot of ha experience, but would seem almost impossible to mess up to be honest since it is suppose to be a dedicated connection via a wire between the 2 boxes.

          But all of the traffic looks to be out of state, since there are no syn's blocked. And looks like something wanting to close the connection since there is Fin and RST even in there.

          Are those outbound blocks, sure looks like it, just noticed that - see the little black arrows?

          outboundblocks.png

          That makes ZERO sense! So some floating rule, not sure how you could even do default deny rule outbound on an interface?

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          • JeGrJ
            JeGr LAYER 8 Moderator
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            Aye, we have quite some cluster customers, but never seen that on a Sync interface. The original error is one we have on 1-2 locations, too, though, but nothing with that kind of OOS traffic

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              bolvar @johnpoz
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              @johnpoz

              What not make sense, is i think i have found the problem.

              Under System/Routing/Gateways if i disable the Gateway Monitoring the problem gone...What the f**k.
              At the sync he checks the interfaces states?

              I have only 1 public ip, so on my wan interface i have a private ip.

              The problem could came from this?

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                I have no idea how you would be getting outbound blocking? It does not do that out of the box - you must of put in a floating rule.

                And you prob had something setup to flush states on gateway loss? Not sure why you would setup a gateway on your sync interface?? That makes no sense to do such a thing. What would you even set it too?

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                  bolvar @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz

                  There are no gw on the sync interface.
                  I have no floating rule set up.
                  So this is a big question how realy this ha workes, beacause now i feel the outdate-ed netgate video and setup is a crap.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    Very odd to be sure... I would hope someone with more HA experience could chime in.. While I have setup a HA for play in vm.. Never ran into such blocks..

                    Is this the video your talking about?
                    https://www.slideshare.net/NetgateUSA/high-availability-on-pfsense-24-pfsense-hangout-march-2017

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                    • DerelictD
                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                      last edited by Derelict

                      Nothing magical about XMLRPC sync. It's just a TCP/HTTPS connection to the webgui port on the secondary.

                      I suppose on the sending node that could happen if something has killed the state.

                      Do you have state killing on gateway failure enabled in System > Advanced, Miscellaneous?

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                        But how/why would it be an outbound block?

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                        • DerelictD
                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                          Sorry I updated ^

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                          • johnpozJ
                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz

                            But I still don't get how it could be an outbound block - that is what the little black arrow thing means.. I have to think there is some setting that are done that are not default..

                            I don't run HA setup, nor do I have it that setting set.. But seems odd that there could be outbound blocking even on a state kill?

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by Derelict

                              If the primary has an open https connection to the secondary and is trying to send the config changes and something kills the state out from under it, it will continue to try to send the data until it times out and quits.

                              It will be out-of-state like anything else in that case.

                              # default deny rules
                              block in log inet all tracker 1000000103 label "Default deny rule IPv4"
                              block out log inet all tracker 1000000104 label "Default deny rule IPv4"
                              

                              1000000104 is the outbound default deny so that would log like that.

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                              • johnpozJ
                                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                Yeah I get that it is out of state, but it would be logged as an outbound block?? This is what is confusing me..

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                  Sorry. updated again lol

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    Ah that is why its block as outbound.. Then..

                                    block out log inet all tracker 1000000104 label "Default deny rule IPv4"

                                    Normally never see outbound blocks.. But if its pfsense itself doing the talking, and the state goes away then that rule would block it since the state is missing. Until the process on pfsense creates a new state by sending syn.

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                                    • DerelictD
                                      Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
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                                      Yeah. Everything that was initially set up by the TCP handshake starting with a SYN going out has been blown away so...

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        Ok that makes sense then - thanks. Even though there is a rule that allows pfsense to talk out, it still needs a valid state.

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                          last edited by johnpoz

                                          So if they are seeing this block - how do they restart the sync process so there is a new state created? I really need to play more with the HA stuff.. Time to fire up some vms and play with the HA setup ;) My understanding of the inner works of that is very lacking - I just have not had need to play with it.

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                                          • DerelictD
                                            Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate @johnpoz
                                            last edited by Derelict

                                            @johnpoz It will kick off another sync when another change is made or there's a button in Status > Filter Reload (of all places).

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