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    ageis
    last edited by Jan 19, 2020, 1:07 PM

    Hi

    I am building a new pfsense router and firewall for myself.
    Due to the my build not having integrated graphics or serial port I need to use my gfx card from my gaming pc to install pf sense.

    Would it be possible to change it to use console mode after I have ordered a serial pcie card?
    If so how?

    I thought a serial port is more appropriate since it's more nerdy lol.

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      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by Jan 19, 2020, 2:45 PM

      Yes, you can enable a serial console and set it as the primary console in System > Advanced > Admin Access.

      Steve

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        JKnott
        last edited by JKnott Jan 19, 2020, 3:02 PM Jan 19, 2020, 2:47 PM

        @ageis said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

        I thought a serial port is more appropriate since it's more nerdy lol.

        Then you'll probably want one of these or these. ๐Ÿ˜‰

        BTW, way back when I started my career, I was a bench technician and spent my days overhauling Teletype machines, working on models 28, 32, 33 & 35. Later on, when I was a computer tech, we had a lot of those VT100s.

        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
        UniFi AC-Lite access point

        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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          alirz @stephenw10
          last edited by Apr 13, 2023, 1:02 PM

          @stephenw10 hi, I donโ€™t see any option to enable to set serial console as primary under system > advanced>Dominic access.

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            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by Apr 13, 2023, 2:06 PM

            You should see an option to enable the serial console if the system has a serial port.

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              tedquade @JKnott
              last edited by Apr 13, 2023, 3:15 PM

              @jknott The days of BAUDOT and teletype machines clattering away next to the news room.

              Ted Quade

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                fireodo @tedquade
                last edited by Apr 13, 2023, 4:43 PM

                @tedquade said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                The days of BAUDOT and teletype machines clattering away next to the news room

                Offtopic: My first Modem had the superspeed of 4800 BAUD ... ๐Ÿค 

                Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                  JKnott @fireodo
                  last edited by Apr 13, 2023, 5:29 PM

                  @fireodo said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                  Offtopic: My first Modem had the superspeed of 4800 BAUD ...

                  My first modem ran at a blazing 300 baud! It was manual too! Some of those Teletypes I used to work on ran at 45.4 B.

                  PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                  i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                  UniFi AC-Lite access point

                  I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                    fireodo @JKnott
                    last edited by fireodo Apr 13, 2023, 5:44 PM Apr 13, 2023, 5:39 PM

                    @jknott said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                    My first modem ran at a blazing 300 baud! It was manual too!

                    Something like that? :-D

                    Download.jpeg

                    Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                    SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                    pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                    Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                      JKnott @fireodo
                      last edited by JKnott Apr 13, 2023, 6:24 PM Apr 13, 2023, 6:07 PM

                      @fireodo

                      No, mine was direct connect. I had to dial the phone, switch the modem to originate and then hang up the phone.

                      BTW, there's a bit of a story to how I got it. One day, my wife visited my office, where I showed her the "Adventure" game on a VAX 11/780 computer. She asked if I could put it on my computer, an IMSAI 8080. I said no, but if we had a modem... I was soon the proud owner of a 300B manual modem. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                      Adventure is still available, at least on Linux, in the BSD games package. I've even installed it on a Chromebook.

                      "You are standing at the end of a road before a small brick building.
                      Around you is a forest. A small stream flows out of the building and
                      down a gully."

                      PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                      i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                      UniFi AC-Lite access point

                      I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                        fireodo @JKnott
                        last edited by Apr 13, 2023, 6:10 PM

                        @jknott said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                        BTW, there's a bit of a story to how I got it. One day, my wife visited my office, where I showed her the "Adventure" game on a VAX 11/780 computer. She asked if I could put it on my computer, an IMSAI 8080. I said no, but if we had a modem... I was soon the proud owner of a 300B manual modem.

                        Good Old Times ... ๐Ÿ˜ We have to stop and not capture the thread ...

                        Kettop Mi4300YL CPU: i5-4300Y @ 1.60GHz RAM: 8GB Ethernet Ports: 4
                        SSD: SanDisk pSSD-S2 16GB (ZFS) WiFi: WLE200NX
                        pfsense 2.7.2 CE
                        Packages: Apcupsd Cron Iftop Iperf LCDproc Nmap pfBlockerNG RRD_Summary Shellcmd Snort Speedtest System_Patches.

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                          alirz @stephenw10
                          last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 6:27 PM

                          @stephenw10 well there isn't. I only see an option to set the baud rate for serial communications.
                          That being said, i was able to see serial output in securecrt, putty doesn't seem to work for me.

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                            JonathanLee @ageis
                            last edited by JonathanLee Apr 14, 2023, 8:47 PM Apr 14, 2023, 6:38 PM

                            @ageis You can set up a usb connection and use a program like putty to access the command prompt. You have to set the baud rate also that route just like old DB-9 console cables.

                            Make sure to upvote

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                              JKnott @JonathanLee
                              last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:15 PM

                              @jonathanlee said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                              just like old db9 DE-9 console cables.

                              PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                              i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                              UniFi AC-Lite access point

                              I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                JonathanLee @JKnott
                                last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:48 PM

                                @jknott do you remember the DB-25 on the back of that us robotics modem that was used for out of band? You needed an adapter to connect to it with the Cisco rollover blue cable.

                                Make sure to upvote

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                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator @alirz
                                  last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:48 PM

                                  @alirz said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                                  I only see an option to set the baud rate for serial communications.

                                  You would see that if it's a serial console only install. What are you running on? What image did you install from?

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                                    alirz @stephenw10
                                    last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:53 PM

                                    @stephenw10 I am running the serial console image. As I mentioned I did get the serial console working in securecrt app, not in putty. That being said I donโ€™t see any option to turn serial console on/off under the admin access page.
                                    Anyways, my issue is resolved even if the toggle is missing.

                                    Another question though. Can a serial image install be set to use vga as primary output and vice versa? Is there a setting to control that. Letโ€™s say I want to hook up a monitor and would like to use the vga output?

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                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 8:59 PM

                                      Yes, like I said on the serial only image there is no option to disable the serial console by default. Otherwise you could easily lock yourself out. ๐Ÿ˜‰

                                      Try removing the file: /cf/conf/enableserial_force.
                                      That should allow you see the console options.

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                                        JKnott @JonathanLee
                                        last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 9:03 PM

                                        @jonathanlee said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                                        do you remember the DB-25 on the back of that us robotics modem that was used for out of band?

                                        Yep, I have both a USR Courier modem and blue Cisco cable here. However, that DB-25 wasn't used for out of band, it was used for the data. Initially personal computers used DB-25 connectors, but switched to the DE-9 with the IBM AT.

                                        BTW, my IMSAI 8080 had a bunch of holes punched in the back panel, for DB-25 connectors. I used 3 of 'em. Back in those days, I was also working with modems at customer sites.

                                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                          JKnott @alirz
                                          last edited by Apr 14, 2023, 9:08 PM

                                          @alirz said in changing vga mode to serial console mode:

                                          Can a serial image install be set to use vga as primary output and vice versa?

                                          Yep. That's what I have here. My pfSense box is connected to both my USB/HDMI KVM switch and can also connect via serial cable. It's been a couple of years since I set it up, so I don't recall the details, but the serial port definitely works. I had to use a gender bender cable to connect the computers, as they both have male connectors.

                                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                          UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                          I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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