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    SFP with fiber hand-off, won't negotiate - XG-7100 router to Ciena 3930

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      shapelytraffic
      last edited by shapelytraffic

      Is there special configuration to setting up SFP to work with fiber hand-off? I'm not getting a connection. The interface status is: no carrier. I've applied the WAN interface to the ix0 where I've got the SFP installed. The WAN interface is static ipv4 with correct IP and subnet. I've confirmed the IP and subnet by attaching a laptop to an Ethernet port of the hand-off switch with the same IP config, this negotiated successfully.

      Comcast suggested that I need to run a command line to turn on the light. Also, they wanted to know if I can get the light levels from the Netgate. The hand off switch sees -2.5 send and -2.3 receive light levels.

      For context: I tested the SFP port on my bench by connecting to a ZyXel switch with SFP. The ZyXel was not configured as a hand-off though, the IP was applied directly the the SFP interface. Since the time of this test the router was boxed up in original shipping material and taken to the new site by car. Where I unboxed it and racked it up. There is always the possibility that damage occurred, however unlikely.

      Thanks for reading!

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        If you run at the command line, or via Diag > Command Prompt: ifconfig -vvm ix0

        That should show you the status of the SFP module. What exactly is the module you're trying to use?

        Steve

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          shapelytraffic
          last edited by shapelytraffic

          This is the output, although I've redacted the public IP.
          The device is a MENARA NETWORKS PN: 5LR0P20-1310.
          Are the dB levels the light emission levels?

          ix0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
          	options=e400bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,VLAN_HWTSO,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
          	capabilities=f507bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,TSO4,TSO6,LRO,VLAN_HWFILTER,VLAN_HWTSO,NETMAP,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
          	ether 00:08:a2:0f:0e:38
          	hwaddr 00:08:a2:0f:0e:38
          	inet A.B.C.18 netmask 0xfffffff8 broadcast A.B.C.23
          	nd6 options=23<PERFORMNUD,ACCEPT_RTADV,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
          	media: Ethernet autoselect
          	status: no carrier
          	supported media:
          		media autoselect
          		media 10Gbase-LR
          	plugged: SFP/SFP+/SFP28 10G Base-LR (LC)
          	vendor: MENARA NETWORKS PN: 5LR0P20-1310 SN: NE500426 DATE: 2014-05-20
          	module temperature: 30.68 C Voltage: 3.30 Volts
          	RX: 0.70 mW (-1.49 dBm) TX: 0.85 mW (-0.68 dBm) 
          
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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Yes I would expect so. What speed is it trying to connect at? It will probably need to be hard set to 1G if that's what it's trying.

            Steve

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              shapelytraffic @stephenw10
              last edited by shapelytraffic

              This is a 2G link.
              So, nothing sticks out at you as being an issue?

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              • stephenw10S
                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                last edited by stephenw10

                It's trying to link at 2Gbps? Like 1G/1G? Not 2.5Gbps?

                That seems unlikely. The upstream connection to the ISP might be rated at 2Gbps but the local link will probably be 10G or far less commonly 2.5G.

                The ix NICs in the XG-7100 will not link at 2Gbps. They are 10Gbps NICs but should link at 1Gbps also.

                Steve

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                  shapelytraffic
                  last edited by

                  Sorry, 10G, don't know what I was talking about.

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                  • S
                    shapelytraffic
                    last edited by

                    I am trying a work around by using a copper port on the Ciena. I can route my laptop across that link when I set the IP and connect the laptop directly to the copper hand-off. But when I connect the Netgate to the copper hand-off via Eth1, the gateway is down and wont reply to arp or ping.

                    Regarding the Eth1 config, I've assigned the WAN interface to 4090 on LAGG0. And I've added the VLAN as a member of port 1 on the switch. What am I doing incorrectly? Seems like the Eth1 config should be easy to set up but I'm missing something.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      That's the default config, Eth1 as WAN using DHCP. You could just reset the 7100 to factory defaults to be sure.

                      Check the switch port status on the interfaces widget on the dashboard. Does Eth1 show as linked? Do you see link LEDs on it?

                      Steve

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                        shapelytraffic
                        last edited by

                        No worries, it turned out I had taken the VLAN off ports 9 and 10. When I put the VLAN back on 9 and 10 with tagging, it came up.

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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                          last edited by

                          Ah, cool.

                          I would expect it to work on ix0 though. We have seen some modules that require setting 10G specifically before they link.
                          I don't think we have ever tested the particular module you're using.

                          Steve

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                            shapelytraffic
                            last edited by

                            Can you recommend a 1310, single mode SFP that will work with XG-7100? I am not getting anything to detect a carrier. Also, is there some command line I need to run in order to force the lasers on?

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                            • DerelictD
                              Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                              last edited by Derelict

                              Upon initial insert of an SFP you might need either of the following:

                              ifconfig ixX down ; ifconfig ixX up

                              or

                              ifconfig ixX media autoselect

                              It depends on the module.

                              Note that this is only for initial module insertion after boot. Once it's up and running it'll reboot fine and you can remove/reinsert the LC cable.

                              I have personally tested the following. They were ordered with Intel-specific code.

                              10Gtek "AXS13-192-10 10/1G SMF"
                              FiberStore "SFP-10GLR-31 10/1G SMF"

                              I have also tested Add On and Intel-branded MMF modules and they worked (Again, Intel-specific code ordered). I have no reason to believe their single-mode modules would not also work. SMF was too spendy for those for my personal test lab.

                              Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                              A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                              DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                              Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                shapelytraffic
                                last edited by

                                Hi Derelict, thanks for the advice.

                                I did not have success with either set of commands.

                                I am using FS SFP-10GLR-31 as well as 10Gtek ASX-13-192-02 and ASX-130-192-10.

                                I did have an Intel 850 in at first that worked with a dumb switch. That won't work with the fiber hand-off though.

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                                • DerelictD
                                  Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                  last edited by

                                  Do you have anything else to test link with besides the ISP?

                                  You can always use the other ix port for that.

                                  Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                  A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                  DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                  Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                    shapelytraffic
                                    last edited by

                                    Yes, bear with me.

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                                      shapelytraffic
                                      last edited by

                                      With a second XG-7100, I set the ix0 to the ISP address. Ping was successful. Last week, I observed while the hand-off switch port was tested. FWIW.

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                                      • DerelictD
                                        Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                        last edited by

                                        I have not had to do anything to connect to a Brocade ICX-6450 10G port.

                                        I did have to issue the following to a Cisco 3750 1G fiber port to get link to come up there:

                                        speed nonegotiate

                                        on the switch port connected to the XG-7100.

                                        Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                        A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                        DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                        Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                        • DerelictD
                                          Derelict LAYER 8 Netgate
                                          last edited by

                                          Another option is going through an outside switch between the Ciena device and the XG-7100.

                                          A benefit of that arrangement is being able to perform diagnostic captures of what's actually on the "wire" with a mirror port there.

                                          Chattanooga, Tennessee, USA
                                          A comprehensive network diagram is worth 10,000 words and 15 conference calls.
                                          DO NOT set a source address/port in a port forward or firewall rule unless you KNOW you need it!
                                          Do Not Chat For Help! NO_WAN_EGRESS(TM)

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                                            shapelytraffic
                                            last edited by

                                            I have a ticket open with support now, I will post any finding from the ticket transcript here. For any who are interested.

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