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How to block RDP access in 1:1 NAT setup

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    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
    last edited by Mar 3, 2020, 1:07 AM

    Why are you doing 1:1 nat if you want to do port forwarding? Just not understanding what your freaking trying to accomplish exactly to be honest. Not understanding the use case at all..

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      Henry @johnpoz
      last edited by Mar 3, 2020, 1:13 AM

      @johnpoz 1:1 NAT is for my web-server and I needs to access it by RDP, so direct RDP should be blocked and port forwarding allowed

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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz Mar 3, 2020, 1:16 AM Mar 3, 2020, 1:15 AM

        Why do you think you need 1:1 nat? Just do the port forwarding for the ports you need.. There is almost zero reason to do 1:1 nat unless your hosting someone else's server on an RFC1918.. 1:1 nat is for when you have so many ports you need to forward that is easier to just do 1:1. Or you have a whole block of public IPs and you want to do a range of 1:1 nat for a range of public to a range of rfc1918.

        If all you want is rdp, then just forward that... How many other ports do you need open on this box that you want to do 1:1?

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          Henry
          last edited by Mar 3, 2020, 1:32 AM

          I thought 1:1 NAT is easier to setup and also I can remember the setup later easily.

          Secondly, outgoing traffic to the Internet originates from the associated external IP, helps for my reporting.

          I only need HTTP & HTTPS on the box.

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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by johnpoz Mar 3, 2020, 1:43 AM Mar 3, 2020, 1:36 AM

            Well if you only need http and https, just forward those.. If your forward it on a VIP the return traffic will use that VIP to return the traffic.

            If you want originating traffic from this box to use your vip - just do that with a outbound nat.

            BTW opening up RDP, even if you change the port is a HORRIBLE idea.. Unless you can lock it to a specific source IP

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @johnpoz
              last edited by Mar 3, 2020, 2:20 AM

              johnpoz said in How to block RDP access in 1:1 NAT setup:

              if you only need http and https, just forward those

              Or at least block all the other ports on the 1:1 NAT, because otherwise you're opening up file sharing, RPC, whatever else is listening on Windows on a LAN. Probably easiest to add a rule to allow HTTP/HTTPS and block the rest.

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                Henry @SteveITS
                last edited by Mar 3, 2020, 2:36 AM

                @teamits Yes however "1:1 NAT maps all the external ports on that IP to the internal IP but you must still have firewall rules to allow the traffic to reach the local server."

                https://forum.netgate.com/topic/75917/1-1-nat-vs-port-forwarding-when-to-use-each/3

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                  serbus
                  last edited by Mar 3, 2020, 3:59 AM

                  Hello!

                  Port 6665 for remote access to your network seems odd, not because IRC is odd, but because that port has been so badly abused.

                  https://www.speedguide.net/port.php?port=6665

                  You might want to pick a "safer" port, unless that is not your intent...

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                    Henry @serbus
                    last edited by Mar 3, 2020, 4:01 AM

                    @serbus Thank you, very good point!

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                      last edited by johnpoz Mar 3, 2020, 12:41 PM Mar 3, 2020, 12:36 PM

                      Security though obscurity is not security... Opening up rdp to the public internet no matter what port is a BAD idea!!! If you want to rdp to this box, then vpn in and then do it.

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