be honest are you worried about corona
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@netznico said in be honest are you worried about corona:
@guardian I can understand your worries and I think the consequences of the lockdowns should be addressed as a problem itself.
In Germany, as far as I know, the vaccine has gone thourgh the standart testing process just like any other vaccine.
From what I have read @netznico much of the usual animal testing was either skipped or severely curtailed. Given that past attempts to develop a corona virus vaccine where scrapped during the extended testing phase. When the vaccinated animals were exposed to corona viruses they got very sick and most died.
Given that severe autoimmune problems take several years to manifest, there is no way anyone knows if millions of people have committed delayed suicide or condemned themselves to a life of misery. The new mRNA vaccines turn people into spike protein manufacturing machines. What is that going to do long term?
What @provels is saying is very similar to what is going on in many places. Given the track record of pharma, trusting a product that has been rushed out (and for which pharma has no legal liability for consequences) is like trusting pedophiles to run a baby sitting agency. While there may be many well meaning "worker bees", tio Pharma management has proven time and time again that will steam roller over ANYTHING that gets in the way of profit!
There is just too much censorship of credible people to trust governments and main stream media.
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@guardian I have to admit it makes me nervous that the vaccines are approved so fast. I have read that it is due to more efficiency in the process and I hope that is true.
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@netznico said in be honest are you worried about corona:
@guardian I have to admit it makes me nervous that the vaccines are approved so fast. I have read that it is due to more efficiency in the process and I hope that is true.
@netznico - FYI, it has been misreported that the vaccines have been "approved"... they have been issued an "Emergency Use Authorization"... From what I have heard the official period for clinical trials ends in 2023... February to the best of my recollection, but I'm not sure.
Essentially they have been given permission to experiment on the world.
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Nah, quarantine gave me new possibilities. I've started working at home.
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Some winners, some losers... just don't blindly accept what you see on the news. Follow the money...
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@netznico It's due to several factors. We have been studying this family of virii since SARS in the early 2000s. The usual drug validation process is expensive and time-consuming so they tend to take it one step at a time to save money (why do expensive test #6 if it failed test #2?). For this pandemic, they did the testing in parallel instead of serial, and the govt put up the money to make it happen fast.
This pandemic has exposed a lot of people for the idiotic dimwits they truly are. Nothing makes my blood boil like listening to selfish morons going on and on about their personal rights and freedoms as if they were more important than the collective well-being of the rest of us. If you choose to live in modern society, the onus is on YOU to do what you can to protect it. You want to be a rugged self-reliant individualist? Go move to the forest with the fucking bears.
@guardian Yes, why rely on experts, doctors and scientists being covered by respectable news media (all of whom have reputations to worry about) when instead I could listen to ignorant cranks like Joe Rando on the internet? GTFO
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Hm, I didn't take the vaccine, got infected and I'm doing pretty nice..
If you took the vaccine, you shouldn't be afraid of me.. Or you don't trust your vaccine efficiency ?In case you are afraid, you stay home locked, not me.
Go, take this experimental vaccine, you are free to decide and choose.. I'll just wait for one that doesn't give me heart problems..
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@kom said in be honest are you worried about corona:
@guardian Yes, why rely on experts, doctors and scientists being covered by respectable news media (all of whom have reputations to worry about) when instead I could listen to ignorant cranks like Joe Rando on the internet? GTFO
It would be appreciated if you could keep things civil and factual. Intelligent disagreement/debate is welcomed, rudeness has no place in civilized society--if necessary we can agree to disagree, and that's OK in a society that values freedom of expression.
I'm not suggesting anyone immediately believe anything. I want people to THINK, have open honest debate, and QUESTION AUTHORITY. The truth stands up to questioning - lies/deceit does not. If you don't have a factual argument, then you have to resort to mud slinging, secrecy, and confusion.
Here are some things I know to be fact from sources known by me personally, personal experience or generally accepted facts that have been widely reported by mainstream sources in the past:
If you have enough money you can buy media/doctors to say anything. Just look at the history of Tobacco where the cause-effect linkage to health problems is much more clear. If you have enough money, there are people who will sell their soul and do almost anything. Unfortunately when they say the science is settled, they should really be saying the science has been bought and paid for, and it's this way because we say "it's this way", not because it's the truth.
I have one friend dealing with some very nasty side effects... she may well have had the rest of her life ruined by this experimental garbage. Based on age data being supplied on the government, her odds of dying from COVID were about .01%! She was pressured by her employer and did not believe she had any other choice but to take the jab.
The US VAERS system reported more COVID jab injuries/deaths in 3 months than the last 20 years for all other vaccines.
There have been more deaths in Canada in the 0-19 Year age range from COVID jabs, than from COVID, and the youth that died from COVID had serious underlying conditions, the ones that died from the jab likely would have been perfectly fine.
There is NO LONG TERM SAFETY DATA by definition because these jabs haven't been around long enough to establish long term safety. (The vaccinated may have a much more severe response to the flu or other corona virus and cause a real pandemic -- but this is just speculation at this point.)
The FDA has not "approved" the jabs, they have granted an "Emergency Use Authorization" which essentially make the world a lab full of guinea pigs.
The company literature states that their jabs don't necessarily prevent infection from or transmission of COVID, only that (based on cursory tests) it reduces the severity of symptoms (I don't know, but to me that sounds like it creates more asymptomatic carriers).
I have friends at local hospitals that are telling me they have either no COVID patients, or only a small handful, and the media is saying the hospitals are full to capacity with COVID patients. Patients are being moved around and other "theatre" to create maximum havoc, and hence manufacture demand for the jab.
Doctors are being censored and prevented from making their clinical observations public. There are so many studies that show effective methods of treatments that are being suppressed.
Doctors were (and maybe still are) being pressured to put COVID on death certificates when underlying conditions were the real cause of death in order to inflate the death counts. Frail elderly people die from respiratory infections (including the common cold) all the time. My wife's doctor said that based on his experience, the flu in past years has been far more dangerous
Reporting is deliberately vague -- we hear about hundreds and thousands of cases, but no indication of severity. Numerous experts (including the inventor or the PCR test) are saying that the PCR test is not reliable, and that you can find anything in anybody if you run enough cycles. If it weren't for the masking/public health measures nobody would even know this thing was still going on.
The pharmaceutical industry has a history of deceptive practices at the expense of human life. It is only because of the discovery process that is part of litigation that this info has come to light. When the expectation is profit will greatly exceed cost of litigation/settlements then the product gets pushed regardless of the human suffering that it costs. Nobody goes to jail, and settlements/fines are just a cost of doing business. Now these companies can turn out whatever they want with no liability whatsoever!
The death statistics from local governments do not support the level of panic. Most of the deaths were elderly people (who all experts agree should be protected). There was a surge of deaths at the beginning, and then a couple of smaller blips, but the curves are in like with what would be statistically expected.
While there is some crazy stuff on the internet, there are also a lot of very highly credentialed people raising legitimate questions/concerns that are being ignored. The risk to their personal reputation is great, and their potential gain is minimal (hence their motive is more likely to be altruistic).
There is an unfortunate trend these days to not argue based on information/merit, but simply to do everything possible to assassinate character.
When a thinking person sees the mainstream media reporting things that they know to be untrue multiple times over an extended period of time it seems like a logical response to be skeptical and examine other sources. A pathological liar may tell the truth, but any intelligent person is going to want a lot of verification before relying on anything they say.
What I have heard from epidemiologists is that what tends to happen with pathogens is that there is an initial spike in deaths as the vulnerable are killed off. It circulates amongst the younger/healthy population and the survivors develop immunity. There is also quite possible that those who survive transmit virus fragments/dead virus almost like a "vaccine" that helps other members of the herd develop immunity. Pathogens mutate with time, but if a very virulent strain emerges, it kills the host and the pathogen dies off. If a vaccine doesn't prevent infection, and keeps the host alive, then these more virulent strains survive - this is what has happened with antibiotic resistant ".superbugs" The vaccines may well be supporting the mutations.
I personally would like to see open public scientific debate based on facts/evidence and where warranted public/open trials/hearings/tribunals regarding public health measures and the conduct of public officials. When warranted severe punishment for wrongdoing and removal of protection from liability.
Fear keeps people from thinking clearly. If people thought, intelligently debated and demanded clear honest answers this would be over. America can only remain the land of the free if they are the home of the brave, and if America goes down, god help the world!
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@ozeus121 I've also started working at home. I decided to work on editing videos and it was a right decision
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@Lococent said in be honest are you worried about corona:
I've done the same. Let me tell my story. I have lost my job and the only source of income, and trust me, I've been extremely worried about it. But soon I learned how to use video editor and started working as a freelancer on Upwork. Soon I started earning very good money from home just with video editing skills. I am happy now that I lost my boring job that took all my time. Now I have more free time and money
That is great, I like the fact that people now can work from their computers and not being linked anywhere
