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    • kiokomanK
      kiokoman LAYER 8
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      you need nat reflection
      https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/book/nat/nat-reflection.html

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      • johnpozJ
        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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        No he doesn't NEED nat reflection - why can you not just access this resource while your inside your network via the fqdn that you set on your local dns to resolve to the local IP... This is a cleaner, better solution than nat reflection.

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          michaeldemb @kiokoman
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          @kiokoman this does not work. I tried both options.

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            michaeldemb @johnpoz
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            @johnpoz Because I must use an IP address. Can't use host name. Some limitations of an application I am using. Any other ideas on how to make it working?

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            • johnpozJ
              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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              @michaeldemb said in Access host on the LAN using public IP:

              Because I must use an IP address

              Use a different application - forcing use of an IP is just plain moronic... What application is this?

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                michaeldemb @johnpoz
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                @johnpoz This is not an option.

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                  michaeldemb @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz BTW, I did set DNS Forwarder Host Overrides, but it does not seem to be working. PF still resolves to the actual public IP, not the one I configured.

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                  • johnpozJ
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by johnpoz

                    Well nat reflection does work - but all things are options... Why is it you have to use this software, your saying nobody else makes software that does X... And their software is so shitty that it can not even use a fqdn.... Sorry but say its BS..

                    If you want help with with your nat reflection setup, your going to have to provide some details.. I would start with showing us your nat reflection setup.

                    2nd I would do a sniff do you see pfsense reflect the traffic back in..

                    I did set DNS Forwarder Host Override

                    Are you using the forwarder? Out of the box pfsense uses resolver, unbound... So setting overrides in the forwarder would accomplish nothing.. Set the override in resolver, not forwarder... This takes 2 seconds to validate if working or not with a simple query.

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                      michaeldemb @johnpoz
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                      @johnpoz Lets assume I can use DNS. Why DNS Forwarder Host Overrides is not working?

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                      • johnpozJ
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz

                        Again... Are you using the forwarder? There are two DNS software packages (3 if you install bind optional package) on pfsense.. There is the forwarder (dnsmasq), and the resolver (unbound)... Out of the box pfsense uses unbound.

                        You have to place your override in the system your using.. Its that simple

                        override.jpg

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                          michaeldemb @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz I am using Forwarder (dnsmasq).
                          All is configured, but the PF still responding with the value from public DNS rather than from the overwrite entry. See screenshot:

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                          • kiokomanK
                            kiokoman LAYER 8
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                            @johnpoz yeah i need to be more verbose next time, i was in a hurry because a customer entered my store in that moment 😂 what i meant is you need one of the options on that link, nat reflection or split dns but it's well documented that split dns is the best course of action

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                            • johnpozJ
                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                              last edited by johnpoz

                              Well your not asking pfsense - so why would you think it would reply with your override?

                              notaskingpfsense.jpg

                              noshit.jpg

                              Your override is not on freaking googles dns servers for gosh sake!

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                              • kiokomanK
                                kiokoman LAYER 8
                                last edited by kiokoman

                                kiokoman@nanto:~$ dig @172.17.0.254 -p110 any ilive.demb.ca
                                ;; Connection to 172.17.0.254#110(172.17.0.254) for ilive.demb.ca failed: timed out.
                                
                                ; <<>> DiG 9.11.5-P4-5.1ubuntu2.1-Ubuntu <<>> @172.17.0.254 -p110 any ilive.demb.ca
                                ; (1 server found)
                                ;; global options: +cmd
                                ;; Got answer:
                                ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 21705
                                ;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 1, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 1
                                ;; OPT PSEUDOSECTION:
                                ; EDNS: version: 0, flags:; udp: 4096
                                ;; QUESTION SECTION:
                                ;ilive.demb.ca.                 IN      ANY
                                
                                ;; ANSWER SECTION:
                                ilive.demb.ca.          1       IN      A       192.168.10.10
                                
                                ;; Query time: 3 msec
                                ;; SERVER: 172.17.0.254#110(172.17.0.254)
                                ;; WHEN: gio mar 19 19:17:56 CET 2020
                                ;; MSG SIZE  rcvd: 58
                                

                                dig @ pfsense-ip !!

                                and your pc need to use pfsense as dns server and only that

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                                  michaeldemb @johnpoz
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                                  @johnpoz Man, you need to better pay attention to questions. I am asking PF, but for some reason, it is forwarding the request to upstream DNS, instead of returning the value from overwrite table.

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                                  • johnpozJ
                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                    @michaeldemb said in Access host on the LAN using public IP:

                                    you need to better pay attention to questions

                                    You are NOT asking pfsense - its right there in front of you!!

                                    You clearly have set pfsense to ask google - it doesn't do that out of box... Set pfsense to ask itself, which is the default! And then test your override asking it..

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                                      michaeldemb @johnpoz
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                                      @johnpoz PF is set as my default DNS. It is configured with DNS forwarder that goes to google. So yes I am asking PF, but it just forwarding to google.

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        @michaeldemb said in Access host on the LAN using public IP:

                                        So yes I am asking PF, but it just forwarding to google

                                        NO your NOT.. Your queries were direct to 8.8.8.8 - its right there in your screenshots!!

                                        askingpfsense.jpg

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                                        • kiokomanK
                                          kiokoman LAYER 8
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                                          if it's not like the screenshot of johnpoz check this options
                                          Immagine.jpg

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                                          • Bob.DigB
                                            Bob.Dig LAYER 8
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                                            @michaeldemb Best you start with a fresh pfSense...

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