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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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      And how exactly is this 104 box doing a query to 192.168.1.1... Their default gateway is pfsene wan IP...

      You show zero hits on any of your wan rules..

      How about you draw up how you have this put together... Cause I don't see how devices on a 104 school network would be pointing to pfsense wan as their gateway.. Or how they would query a rfc1918 address for dns.

      If anything would be a asymmetrical mess..

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Ok, the port forward rules and linked firewall rules look good though.

        Where are you testing it from? What IP? I assume that 104.x.x.x IP is the schools external public IP, not the pfSense WAN?

        Test from something on the pfSense WAN subnet to the pfSense WAN IP address directly and it should work.

        Steve

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          According to him the 104.x.x.x/24 is his pfsense wan.. And yeah its his school network..

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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            Ah, yes. Ok then test from that subnet to the IP directly, with those rules it should connect.

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              maale
              last edited by

              Thanks

              Still doesnot work, I tested it from an external builted vm machine with IP 104.x.x.15 with gate way =104.x.x.254, although I can ping the external mail server address:104.x.x.35 but cannot connect to it!!!
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              could you please let me know what can be the problem?

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              • johnpozJ
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by johnpoz

                There is all kinds of things that could be the the problem.. That just means your pinging something 104.x.x.35... Why would you think that would be your mail server if its behind pfsense, is that pfsense wan IP.

                Which I doubt - since from you rules on your wan your not allowing to ping its wan ip.. Or any icmp even, so highly much doubt that is even psfense.. And sure isn't something behind it, etc. etc..

                If you want help - I suggest you get with your teacher.. I'm not here to teach a class in basic networking, so you can get an A..

                To troubleshoot port forwarding.
                https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/nat/port-forward-troubleshooting.html

                But again, from what you posted I highly doubt that .35 is even pfsense wan IP... Since you do not allow that on your wan interface - so you wouldn't get an answer if you pinged it..

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  I agree. If you're genuinely testing from the WAN subnet and the pfSense WAN IP is 104.190.x.35 then your firewall rules should be blocking that ping.

                  So either you're pinging something else or you changed the rules since you last screenshot.

                  Steve

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                    maale @stephenw10
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                    @stephenw10
                    yes I have only changed the WAN rules to alow ICMP.
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                    thanks

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Ok, what ports do you have in the web alias?

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                        maale @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10
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                        • stephenw10S
                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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                          Ok it looks like your port forward for that server is listing at 104.x.x.5 but you are trying to open 104.x.x.35.
                          Is that just a typo? Correct it if so.

                          If it's a VIP on the WAN then try to open that IP.

                          Steve

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                            maale @stephenw10
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                            @stephenw10
                            I have 2 servers, one is web sever has external IP 104.190.X.X.5 and internal 192.168.1.5, second is mail server has external IP 104.X.X.35 with internal IP 192.168.1.5, I want both be behind pfsense and accessible from outside through port forwarding
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                            yes I have virtual IPs
                            sorry, what do you mean by opening that IP?
                            do you mean set a LAN rule with destionation address =104.x.x.5 ?

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                              maale @maale
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                              @maale
                              Sorry, I mean a WAN rule

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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                I mean try to open the page by IP address directly rather than URL which would need to resolve.

                                Both those IPs look like they should work though assuming the server can respond.

                                Check the pfSense state table in Diag > States while you;re testing. You should see the states on WAN and LAN complete with NAT on WAN.

                                Steve

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                                • johnpozJ
                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                  So what is your actual IP of your pfsense wan? You have vips of .5 and .35 - what is the actual IP?

                                  Have you gone through the troubleshooting doc I Linked too - finding the issue with port forwarding is 2 minutes work tops!!! do a sniff do you see the traffic on your wan or not? Sniff on lan - do you see it send the traffic on?

                                  For all you know the traffic is being forwarded and your system your forwarding to firewall is blocking the traffic - very common!!!

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                                    maale @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz
                                    Thanks!

                                    The problem was that the routing environment doesnot support Virtual IPs.
                                    All traffic should be hit the pfsense WAN IP at 104.x.x.10 .So, I have set an external DNS with an IP 104.x.x.25 with my domain and records www.x.av for web server and mail.x.av for mail server, with port forward rules.
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                                    Now from an external machine 104.x.x.15 using the domain www.x.av I can access the web server, but using the domain mail.x.av, this directs me to the same webpage for the web server but not for the mail server. Is NAT reflection what I need to do?

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                                    • johnpozJ
                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                      @maale said in Enable internet access from LAN:

                                      routing environment doesnot support Virtual IPs.

                                      Huh - that makes no sense at all.

                                      Is NAT reflection what I need to do?

                                      No its not... if you want host.domain.tld to get sent to X, and other.domain.tld to get send to Y behind pfsense then you need to use multiple wan IP, vips or not... Or you need to hit different ports in your url, or you need to setup a reverse proxy to know that host.domain.tld goes to X and that other.domain.tld goes to Y.. Look at the HA proxy package.

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                                        maale @johnpoz
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                                        @johnpoz
                                        I mean the lab routing environment.
                                        ok I look for the HA package

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                                        • johnpozJ
                                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                          Lab routing environment or real routing environment... Has zero to do with anything - an IP address that is in same network, has zero to do with routing...

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            Mmm, that.

                                            Why can you not use multiple IPs on WAN? What VIP type were you trying to use? Use IPAlias if you were not.

                                            Steve

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