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    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
    last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 8:59 PM

    Mmm, that.

    Why can you not use multiple IPs on WAN? What VIP type were you trying to use? Use IPAlias if you were not.

    Steve

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      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 9:10 PM

      Maybe he meant their virtual environment that pfsense is running on? Maybe issues with vips in some VM setups, where you might have to do some promiscuous setting. But if VM, he could just create some new virtual interfaces and since he is using dhcp in this network.. He could have 3 different wan interfaces using 3 different IPs and then port forward..

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        maale @johnpoz
        last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 10:27 PM

        @johnpoz
        I am trying to install the HA proxy package, but I cannot see any packages listed. could you please let me know why? I can connect to www.pfsense.org successfully. And I have installed bind package before, but now a I cannot find available packages
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          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
          last edited by johnpoz Apr 8, 2020, 11:01 PM Apr 8, 2020, 11:00 PM

          That because your pfsense install can not resolve most likely, since you prob installed bind and F'd it up..

          Go to diagnostic menu, dns - lookup up something.. what does it show..

          You connecting to something is completely different than pfsense resolving something.. What is your client using for dns, what is pfsense?

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            maale @johnpoz
            last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 11:23 PM

            @johnpoz
            I am using the pfsense DNS resolver and other 2 external DNS servers. diagnostic menu, dns - lookup google.com, gave no response from 127.0.0.1 but response from one of my external servers with google's IP address.

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              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
              last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 11:25 PM

              @maale said in Enable internet access from LAN:

              I am using the pfsense DNS resolver and other 2 external DNS servers

              Not how it works - you are either resolving, or your using external dns via forwarding..

              Your resolver is not working most likely because whatever network pfsense is on is prob blocking direct dns queries - and only allows access to googledns or whatever.

              So change to forwarder mode..

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                maale @johnpoz
                last edited by Apr 8, 2020, 11:36 PM

                @johnpoz
                Thanks so much, now I can see the available package list

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                  maale @johnpoz
                  last edited by Apr 12, 2020, 5:30 PM

                  @johnpoz
                  Because I am using the same domain name for my internal and external services, I have used the bind9 package to set split DNS as follows and it works fine to resolve inside LAN and outside. All services from outside have pfsense WAN address.
                  This is first zone file for internal addresses.
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                  This is the second zone for external addresses.
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                  I also have set a NAT rule with destination= 127.0.0.1 port 53 in the LAN and WAN interfaces. So that split DNS works fine.
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                  Because all services have pfsense WAN address I used the squid reverse proxy package with the web and mail servers at 192.168.1.5 and 192.168.1.35. I want www.x.av goes to the internal web server at 192.168.1.5 port 80. And https://mail.x.av goes to the mail server at 192.168.1.35 port 443 and 143.
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                  . I set a WAN rule with source any destion :this firewall port 80 so that the traffic goes to the squid reverse proxy. That doesnot work for me, from outside I cannot access any of the two servers! Could you please let me know what is wrong with this setting?
                  Thanks.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                    last edited by Apr 12, 2020, 6:34 PM

                    You don't need bind to do split dns... And its at best problematic use the same domain internally as you do externally..

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                      maale @johnpoz
                      last edited by Apr 12, 2020, 6:48 PM

                      @johnpoz
                      so I can use the pfsense resolver and add hostoverides e.g www.x.av IP 104.x.x.10 ? or it is better to built an exteral dns for external quiries?

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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz Apr 12, 2020, 6:59 PM Apr 12, 2020, 6:58 PM

                        What boxes exactly are going to be using pfsense as their dns? Your saying your going to make it the authoritative ns for your domain on the public internet? BAD IDEA!!

                        If your going to do that, then you would for sure have to setup different views..

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                          maale @johnpoz
                          last edited by Apr 12, 2020, 7:06 PM

                          @johnpoz
                          yes I have set up 2 zones with 2 views. Bind works fine, but my setting for the reverse squid proxy doesnot work.

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by johnpoz Apr 12, 2020, 8:43 PM Apr 12, 2020, 8:39 PM

                            Not sure how your going to get port 143 to work... IMAP doesn't send headers that a proxy can look at to see where it should go, etc.. That would be port based normal forward.

                            You would use reverse proxy or ha proxy (reverse) for stuff that sends headers - http/https

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                              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                              last edited by Apr 13, 2020, 11:37 AM

                              Why are you port forwarding DNS to localhost?

                              Is that service on port 143 really https? Or IMAP which, as Jogn says, should not be proxied like that.

                              What is that NAT rule on WAN for port 80?

                              Many questions...still. 😕

                              Steve

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                                Gertjan @stephenw10
                                last edited by Apr 13, 2020, 1:19 PM

                                @stephenw10 said in Enable internet access from LAN:

                                What is that NAT rule on WAN for port 80?

                                That's easy : the GUI-from-WAN access rule.

                                No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                                  maale @stephenw10
                                  last edited by Apr 13, 2020, 4:55 PM

                                  @stephenw10
                                  Why are you port forwarding DNS to localhost?
                                  So that any internal or external DNS query will be directed to the local host since I am using bind.
                                  What is that NAT rule on WAN for port 80?
                                  I am using WAN rule source any destination: This firewall, port 80, so any traffic will be directed to the reverse proxy.
                                  The mail service has many listening ports:25,110,143. I have a self signed certificate for that page HTTPS.
                                  So in the setup for webservers on squid reverse proxy I set the protocol for mail server at 192.168.1.35 as HTTPS and the port is 143. is that wrong?
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                                    Gertjan
                                    last edited by Apr 14, 2020, 6:39 AM

                                    a self signed cert on a imap 143 port ?
                                    imap 143 is the 'clear text' version. If you want to use TLS for IMAP you would be suing 993.
                                    pop and TLS : 995
                                    Mail clients that send mail should use 587 (TLS possible but now needed) or even better : 465.

                                    Port 25 : should be used only for inter mail server communication. This port was never intend to be used by mail clients. It's so wrong to do so.

                                    Very soon, ports like 80, 110,143 (21) etc will be out of business for good.
                                    Remember : you have a web site on port 80 ? Google won't index you any more.

                                    Btw : Modern 'fat' mail clients like Outlook don't even accept self signed certs any more. Maybe, if you imported the CA ans stamped it as 'trusted' you might get away with it.

                                    No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                                    Edit : and where are the logs ??

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