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    2.4.5 broke UPNP

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    • stephenw10S
      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
      last edited by

      There's a big difference between a static IP address and passing dynamic public IP to pfSense.

      I know that is it possible to do it with Google Fibre as others have written up how-tos here on the forum. However it is no easy especially if you're using any other services on the connection, IPTV, VoIP etc.

      If you setup pfSense as the DMZ IP you should be able to get an OpenVPN remote access server setup though and that is a far, far better solution. I strongly recommend you go back to trying to get that setup and we can assist with that.

      Steve

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      • jimpJ
        jimp Rebel Alliance Developer Netgate
        last edited by

        It's definitely a bad decision by miniupnpd to do this unilaterally.

        https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/10398

        https://github.com/miniupnp/miniupnp/issues/433

        At least by that last comment on that issue, they are going to make it a compile-time option.

        I can't see why anyone would ever want it. It serves no real purpose other than trying to enforce someone's opinion about how they think things should work. In the real world, there are far too many exceptions to that rule for it to be viable.

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          DmacDude @jimp
          last edited by

          @jimp I agree. There are so many options out there, that limiting their service makes it less valuable. Hopefully pfsense will convince them to change or find another upnp daemon.

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            DmacDude @stephenw10
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            @stephenw10

            So I setup openvpn per the directions on a site and inside the network it connects fine. The problem is I can't connect to the firewall through the google fiber router. I keep getting "waiting for server to respond" The google firewall has a port forward on 1194 on tcp and udp. The firewall is set on DMZ. I am not sure what I am missing. I can't find anything online. I am debating if I should start a new thread as I don't want to take this thread of miniupnpd in another direction as this might help someone. So should I start a new thread on my problem? Thanks again for everything.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
              last edited by

              Run a packet capture on the pfsense WAN on port 1194 (assuming you are using that port?). Make sure packets are arriving at all.
              If not try using a different port. Hard to imagine Google fibre is blocking 1194 but it's possible.

              Steve

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                DmacDude @stephenw10
                last edited by DmacDude

                @stephenw10

                I figured out my screw up on the vpn. 1) because of google not passing external ip address I had to do custom on the vpn to manually put in the address. The default option put in google's 192.168.x.x. Hopefully the ip doesn't change often, or I am screwed. If there is a way to put in the network automatically that would be helpful.

                1. The tunnel network is a different network than any you are using. My network starts at x.x.x.10. So I thought I could do just the small 2-9 ips. I was wrong, had to do another network.

                So now everything works.

                I don't know how many pfsense google home users you have but they are all screwed with miniupnpd. I have a few xbox's so I'll have to deal with that at another time that I am in the office.

                Thanks again for your awesome help!!!

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                • Bob.DigB
                  Bob.Dig LAYER 8
                  last edited by Bob.Dig

                  According to tixati, a torrent app for Windows, UPnP is not working on 2.4.5 for me. I did this test on 2.5.0 before and it also wasn't working.

                  Capture.PNG

                  @stephenw10 said in 2.4.5 broke UPNP:

                  It does look like this is a change to the minipnpd daemon that will not open a connection when the client requests a public IP if it does not have one to give. You might be able to override that by giving it a public IP to pass as suggested.

                  My ISP is using 1:1 CG-NAT for IPv4 (100.65..). I can open ports though and pfSense uses the "true" internet-IP for DDNS and stuff.

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                  • stephenw10S
                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                    last edited by

                    Hmm, interesting. Kinda seems pointless them using CGN if they are 1:1... ๐Ÿค”

                    But, yes, this will fail if your WAN is not public until we get a fix for it.

                    Steve

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                    • Bob.DigB
                      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                      last edited by

                      @stephenw10 said in 2.4.5 broke UPNP:

                      Hmm, interesting. Kinda seems pointless them using CGN if they are 1:1... ๐Ÿค”

                      Thank goodness it is pointless. โ˜บ

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                      • stephenw10S
                        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                        last edited by

                        You can edit /var/etc/miniupnpd.conf and add ext_ip=x.x.x.x.
                        Of course that will be lost is you make any changes to the upnp config etc but it should at least allow it to start for now.

                        Steve

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                        • Bob.DigB
                          Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                          last edited by

                          @stephenw10 That didn't do it for me:

                          Capture.PNG

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Hmm, you still see errors from miniupnpd logged?

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                            • Bob.DigB
                              Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                              last edited by Bob.Dig

                              @stephenw10 I anonymized it.

                              Apr 11 22:47:50 	miniupnpd 	87475 	HTTP listening on port 2189
                              Apr 11 22:47:50 	miniupnpd 	87475 	HTTP IPv6 address given to control points : [2a02:2450:x:x:x:x:x:x]
                              Apr 11 22:47:50 	miniupnpd 	87475 	setsockopt(udp, IPV6_RECVPKTINFO): Invalid argument
                              Apr 11 22:49:17 	miniupnpd 	87475 	shutting down MiniUPnPd 
                              
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                              • stephenw10S
                                stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                last edited by

                                Hmm, you're using IPv6? And that worked in 2.4.4p3?

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                                • stephenw10S
                                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                  last edited by

                                  You might also try this: https://forum.netgate.com/post/901337

                                  However it looks like maybe you are hitting something different.

                                  Steve

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                                  • stephenw10S
                                    stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                    last edited by

                                    Adding the ext_ip line works for me, I looks like you're hitting some other issue:

                                    steve@steve-MMLP7AP-00 ~ $ upnpc -s
                                    upnpc : miniupnpc library test client. (c) 2005-2014 Thomas Bernard
                                    Go to http://miniupnp.free.fr/ or http://miniupnp.tuxfamily.org/
                                    for more information.
                                    List of UPNP devices found on the network :
                                     desc: http://172.21.16.1:2189/rootDesc.xml
                                     st: urn:schemas-upnp-org:device:InternetGatewayDevice:1
                                    
                                    Found a (not connected?) IGD : http://172.21.16.1:2189/ctl/IPConn
                                    Trying to continue anyway
                                    Local LAN ip address : 172.21.16.5
                                    Connection Type : IP_Routed
                                    Status : Connected, uptime=17s, LastConnectionError : ERROR_NONE
                                      Time started : Sun Apr 12 00:45:45 2020
                                    MaxBitRateDown : 1000000000 bps (1000.0 Mbps)   MaxBitRateUp 1000000000 bps (1000.0 Mbps)
                                    ExternalIPAddress = 1.2.3.4
                                    Bytes:   Sent: 2881492721	Recv: 853789240
                                    Packets: Sent: 36156776	Recv: 52749504
                                    

                                    Steve

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                                    • stephenw10S
                                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                      last edited by stephenw10

                                      Ha, I should have read the bug report more carefully. ๐Ÿ™„

                                      So no need to edit the file, you can create that line from the webgui using the override WAN IP field anyway. But it still doesn't work because: https://redmine.pfsense.org/issues/10398#note-2

                                      Steve

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                                      • Bob.DigB
                                        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @stephenw10
                                        last edited by Bob.Dig

                                        @stephenw10 Thanks Steve, Let's hope it'll get fixed ore something is done like "Merlin" did, which is btw a great product(-enhancement).

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                                        • Bob.DigB
                                          Bob.Dig LAYER 8
                                          last edited by

                                          So they probably fixed it, to bad I can't test it myself, because I have no clue how I would and don't asky my why I have an account on github in the first place...

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                                          • stephenw10S
                                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                            last edited by

                                            ...my account on github is only for complaining... ๐Ÿ˜†

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