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    Not all devices are listed in DHCP

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      firefox last edited by

      Hello
      I installed pfsense yesterday on a computer (2.4.5-RELEASE (amd64) )
      I entered the DHCP Leases tab and some of the networked devices do not appear there
      Printers
      Access points
      TV
      Cell Phones

      It used to appear

      I did a restart for pfsense
      The devices are still not appear
      How can I see all addresses ?

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      • Gertjan
        Gertjan last edited by

        Hi.

        Easy !

        Restart - or disconnect a couple of seconds - these devices.
        Their DHCP client will ask again for a lease.

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          firefox last edited by firefox

          I've tried it now
          They still do not appear
          I unplugged them from the network and the electricity for 10 minutes

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          • johnpoz
            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

            Did you see them ask for an IP? In the dhcp log?

            If not - then there are possibilities.. They are set static on the device, they are behind a nat.. .Your AP you mention really doing nat vs being an AP. They are still using an old lease from previous setup? You have a another dhcp on the network, etc.

            They are not working on your network.

            If the dhcpd handed out an IP, it would be in the lease table, and it would be in the dhcpd log.

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              firefox last edited by firefox

              Some of them have a static address
              Like the access points
              Printers
              The switch

              TVs do not have
              And they don't show up either

              I entered the graphical interface of two access points
              And I copied the mac address to pfsense
              And I added to the static addresses

              It's just two devices
              On other devices, I can't find where to see the device's mac address

              Is there a way to see their connected devices and mac addresses ?

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              • johnpoz
                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by johnpoz

                Go into your TV... You sure its set for dhcp?

                You sure don't need to add a reservation for dhcpd clients to show up in the leases tab.

                What TV do you have, it should list the mac address under some sort of system info, or network info..

                If your devices are setup static on the device - then no it wouldn't have a lease, so no it wouldn't show up in the leases tab. If your going to set static on the device then you don't need to setup a reservation for that mac.. Unless your just using it for info and name resolution while you register reservations.

                If you want to resolve them by name, you could just setup a host override.

                If your looking for their mac, you could always ping their IP, and then look in your arp table.

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                  firefox last edited by firefox

                  Televisions probably have memory or something
                  I went into network setting of televisions
                  And I clicked Find a Network
                  It has found and is now appearing

                  There are three more devices that do not appear
                  Access point and two television adapter
                  The access point does not appear in the table you specified (arp)

                  The ARP table lists three devices with three IPs
                  That do not appear in IP leasing
                  Not static or dynamic

                  i try that in terminal

                  nmap -n -sP  192.168.1.1/24  -oG -
                  # Nmap 7.60 scan initiated Sun May 10 16:26:53 2020 as: nmap -n -sP -oG - 192.168.1.1/24
                  Host: 192.168.1.1 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.2 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.3 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.5 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.7 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.8 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.9 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.10 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.23 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.25 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.26 ()	Status: Up
                  Host: 192.168.1.27 ()	Status: Up
                  # Nmap done at Sun May 10 16:27:00 2020 -- 256 IP addresses (12 hosts up) scanned in 7.09 seconds
                  

                  access point has a ping
                  And it works
                  But no it is not listed on the terminal list

                  ping 192.168.1.25
                  PING 192.168.1.25 (192.168.1.25) 56(84) bytes of data.
                  64 bytes from 192.168.1.25: icmp_seq=1 ttl=255 time=0.508 ms
                  64 bytes from 192.168.1.25: icmp_seq=2 ttl=255 time=0.485 ms
                  64 bytes from 192.168.1.25: icmp_seq=3 ttl=255 time=0.692 ms
                  64 bytes from 192.168.1.25: icmp_seq=4 ttl=255 time=0.352 ms
                  
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                  • johnpoz
                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by

                    @firefox said in Not all devices are listed in DHCP:

                    But no it is not listed on the terminal list

                    Yes it is

                    Host: 192.168.1.25 () Status: Up

                    I think your confused as to what will be in the dhcp leases tab.. ONLY devices that have actually gotten leases from the dhcp server of pfsense will be listed there. Or things you have created a dhcp reservation for..

                    So box you set a static for on the device itself will never show up in the leases tab, because it never gets a lease..

                    If you want to know what pfsense knows about, this would be the arp table... But only things that have talked to pfsense in the last 20 minutes are so would be in there as well.. This is the default arp cache timer..

                    So box that is on your network, not talking to pfsense, not getting a lease from pfsense dhcp server. Would not be listed in either dhcp leases or arp table.

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                      firefox last edited by

                      @johnpoz said in Not all devices are listed in DHCP:

                      @firefox said in Not all devices are listed in DHCP:

                      But no it is not listed on the terminal list

                      Yes it is

                      Host: 192.168.1.25 () Status: Up

                      sorry I missed it

                      If you want to know what pfsense knows about, this would be the arp table... But only things that have talked to pfsense in the last 20 minutes are so would be in there as well.. This is the default arp cache timer..

                      So box that is on your network, not talking to pfsense, not getting a lease from pfsense dhcp server. Would not be listed in either dhcp leases or arp table.

                      I'll check again another hour
                      I will see if it appears in the ARP table

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                      • johnpoz
                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator last edited by johnpoz

                        @firefox said in Not all devices are listed in DHCP:

                        I'll check again another hour

                        It might not be there, again the arp table cache is only 20 minutes.

                        If you just pinged it from pfsense, it would be in the arp table!!

                        Keep in mind there is nothing that shows you everything that is on your network in pfsense.. Only things that have gotten a lease from pfsense and lease is still active, you have set a reservation for. Arp table will list things that have talked to pfsense in the last 20 minutes.

                        I can put a printer lets on my network, and if its static set on the printer, and the printer has no reason to talk to the gateway (pfsense) it pfsense wouldn't list it.. Even if devices on your network were printing to it, etc.

                        Lets say the printer tried to talk to the internet, via pfsense - then yes it would be in the arp table. But if it then goes to sleep or something, pfsense would drop this from its arp table in 20 minutes.

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                          firefox last edited by

                          @johnpoz said in Not all devices are listed in DHCP:

                          If you just pinged it from pfsense, it would be in the arp table!!

                          it worked
                          Thanks

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