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[RESOLVED]No internet on ubuntu when disable dhcp

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    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
    last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 2:05 PM

    And that is with dhcp or static? And where is your dns query?

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      Farisse
      last edited by Farisse Jul 12, 2020, 2:17 PM Jul 12, 2020, 2:17 PM

      This is Static the video is when internet was functional and then after reboot ... nothing anymore

      here is the dns query:
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        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
        last edited by johnpoz Jul 12, 2020, 3:53 PM Jul 12, 2020, 3:45 PM

        Well not really possible to use the internet without dns resolution..

        What server are you trying to query - can not tell from that command..

        Do a dig with with @ipaddress of dns server.

        something like dig @192.168.1.1 www.google.com

        your command is just going to ask some dns server, which don't know what that is for 192.168.1.1

        Is pfsense listening on dmz interface for dns? Are you pointing dns to something else?

        how about this output

        networkctl status
        ●        State: routable
               Address: 192.168.2.12 on ens3
                        fe80::11:32ff:fe22:cc7d on ens3
               Gateway: 192.168.2.253 (ADI Engineering, Inc.) on ens3
                   DNS: 192.168.3.10
        Search Domains: local.lan
                   NTP: 192.168.3.32
                        192.168.2.253
        

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          Farisse @johnpoz
          last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 4:02 PM

          @johnpoz Well i didn't change anything and i have an internet connection again.

          maybe extra information :
          I use an external DNS in pfsense
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          As from now i have internet this is the requested command :
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            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
            last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 5:16 PM

            Well from your output of nteworkctl you have NO DNS set..

            Unless you setup forwarding on pfsense, those dns servers don't do anything other what pfsense itself would use for dns.

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              Farisse
              last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 5:37 PM

              The DNS forwarder is indeed enabled in pfsense and dns resolver to. Does it make any change if i configure the dns on a client machine ?

              And why do i get internet for a few time then no more internet and after a few time back again without changing nothing ?

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 6:06 PM

                My "guess" would be when your on dhcp you cache some records..

                Clearly from what you posted you have no dns set.. So NO internet is never going to work - unless you plan on just using IPs only ;)

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                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Farisse
                  last edited by johnpoz Jul 12, 2020, 6:08 PM Jul 12, 2020, 6:07 PM

                  @Farisse said in No internet on ubuntu when disable dhcp:

                  The DNS forwarder is indeed enabled in pfsense and dns resolver to

                  Well that is just borked! You mean you have unbound fowarding? Running both forward (dnsmasq) and resolver unbound is going to be problematic for sure.. Unless you have 1 running on different port than 53.

                  from your directed query to 192.168.1.1 you resolved google - so set your ubuntu to use that for its dns when you run static.

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                    Farisse
                    last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 7:49 PM

                    They are on two different ports
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                    I should normally not have any problem with that ? Except maybe my other dns server who is in my lan that i use with freeradius on my guest network ?

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                      Farisse @johnpoz
                      last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 7:51 PM

                      @johnpoz said in No internet on ubuntu when disable dhcp:

                      from your directed query to 192.168.1.1 you resolved google - so set your ubuntu to use that for its dns when you run static.

                      What do you mean with this ? I thought i already configures my ubuntu for using a dns ?
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                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                        last edited by johnpoz Jul 12, 2020, 8:16 PM Jul 12, 2020, 8:09 PM

                        Well clearly not using that now is it..

                        When you directed to do dns it work @192.168.1.1

                        When you just do dig, its saying it can not talk to dns.

                        when you look with networkctrl status - does it show you dns.. NO... And its not working, so clearly its NOT SET!! if it was, then it would be using it and working...

                        what does nslookup show you?

                        user@NewUC:~$ nslookup www.google.com
                        Server:         127.0.0.53
                        Address:        127.0.0.53#53
                        
                        Non-authoritative answer:
                        Name:   www.google.com
                        Address: 172.217.4.196
                        Name:   www.google.com
                        Address: 2607:f8b0:4009:806::2004
                        
                        

                        Here
                        https://linuxize.com/post/how-to-configure-static-ip-address-on-ubuntu-18-04/

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                          Farisse
                          last edited by Farisse Jul 12, 2020, 8:33 PM Jul 12, 2020, 8:32 PM

                          Yeah you’re right it should work if it was set do not understand why it doesn’t.

                          Btw thank you for the link but I can’t process as it is explained. I removed netplan to use the old network configuration ( using /etc/network/interfaces & the screenshot above for the dns)

                          This is the result of the requested command

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                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                            last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 8:46 PM

                            So from your nslookup its working, but its pointing to dnsmasq most likely running locally.. Which in turn forwards to whatever dns you want say 192.168.1.1

                            So now it should be working?

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                              Farisse
                              last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 8:57 PM

                              Ubuntu is insane haha >.< You set up everything to be used 'externally' and it choose to use local dnsmasq. Whatever ...

                              It is working indeed, i'm just afraid to restart the machine and lose the connection again. i prefered to follow what you said to check everything and if its not working anymore search from where it doesn't work. So i'm going to restart now and hope it will still work.

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                                Farisse
                                last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 9:03 PM

                                as i thought after a restart of the machine. No connectivity anymore. 😅

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                  last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 10:25 PM

                                  dude if you can not ping 192.168.1.1 then no you can not do anything...

                                  which has ZERO to do with dhcp, and really zero to do with pfsense at all.. You have other devices on this 192.168.1/24 network... I suggest you head on over to ubuntu forums in your native language to get help on how to setup it up with static..

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                                    Farisse
                                    last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 10:28 PM

                                    Ok, Well thank you for your help. I already tried in my native language on ubuntu forum, but i got no answer. Whatever, i'll search after how to make it work.

                                    Thank you for your explanations, help & time ! 💯

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                                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
                                      last edited by Jul 12, 2020, 10:46 PM

                                      Here is 1st thing you have to test when doing any basic networking troubleshooting.

                                      Can you actually talk to your gateway.. Can you talk to other devices on that network?

                                      If you can not, look in your arp table - you can not talk to ip address xyz, if you can not arp for it..

                                      DHCP has zero to do with actually connectivity - other than handing the client an IP, gateway and dns.. If your doing it static dhcp being on or off on the firewall has nothing to do with connectivity.

                                      If you say it works via dhcp, but not when static - then your not setting up the static correctly... The only way dhcp could have anything to do with your problem is if you were setting up static arp on pfsense. With a reservation that mac address xyz gets 1.2.3.4.. And now when not using dhcp you setup 1.2.3.5 so your static arp does not match up.. So you can not talk to pfsense would = broken connectivity.. Simple test of ping and knowing if you setup static arp or not would be key here..

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                                        Farisse
                                        last edited by Jul 13, 2020, 10:50 AM

                                        Thank you for your help, i never heard about it, i was usually using ping and traceroute command. i am not a specialist. I maybe gave a wrong explanation, but as you said it's not about pfsense son i should ask to ubuntu users. My question was about why it was working when the dhcp on pfsense was enabled and static ip on ubuntu, but not with dhcp was disabled and static ip on ubuntu. For sure it's something about the dns I hoped to find an answer here because i thought i has something to do with the dhcp server but it's not...
                                        I'll try other linux/ubuntu forums or just switch to another operating system.

                                        Many thanks for your help man ! I appreciate it, you made me understand things I understood/learned wrong.
                                        Big up ;-)

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