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    Unifi controller on pfsense?

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    • johnpozJ
      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
      last edited by johnpoz

      I have a lite in the guest room - works fine.. The pro in the center of the house is the normal work horse with the most clients on it. And then have a LR in the kitchen near the patio door that covers that side of the house and also good coverage of the patio that is off the kitchen. They make a nice AP... But if you don't really have to run the controller if you don't want to.. You could just leave it on windows, if you happen to have a windows machine - and just fire it up if you want to make a change, or troubleshoot something.

      I leave mine up all the time because I like the info that provides you.. But its not really a requirement to have the controller up and running 24/7 if you don't really have a place to do what on..

      edit:
      While I use to run the free esxi version, last couple of years I just use the VM Manager on my synology nas.. Even if you can not take "snapshots" with the vm software your using - you can always just export copy of the VM before you make changes, so you could always put the VM back to how it was, etc. But pretty sure even with free esxi you can do snapshots - you can't do vmotion without lic for that.. Been a couple of years :(

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      • kiokomanK
        kiokoman LAYER 8 @bingo600
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        @bingo600
        you can take snapshot on free version of esxi without any problem

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        • johnpozJ
          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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          ^ yeah I thought you could.. I remember doing it, and I only had the free license..

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          • bingo600B
            bingo600 @kiokoman
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            @kiokoman
            Cool
            Will try ASAP

            Thanx 👍

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            • kiokomanK
              kiokoman LAYER 8
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              the only limitation afaik is that you have to use vmxnet3 / emulated network card, it does not work with passthrough

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              • bingo600B
                bingo600 @kiokoman
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                @kiokoman said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                the only limitation afaik is that you have to use vmxnet3 / emulated network card, it does not work with passthrough

                For the snapshots ?
                Aren't they Disk copy only or ?

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                • bingo600B
                  bingo600 @johnpoz
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                  @johnpoz said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                  ^ yeah I thought you could.. I remember doing it, and I only had the free license..

                  Sorry JP
                  I just made a snapshot 🤕
                  Why didn't i try that before now ... In my mind snapshot was crippled on free

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                  • kiokomanK
                    kiokoman LAYER 8
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                    it's a limitation, I don't remember the details but if you have something configured as passthrough (network card or video card or something else) you can't take live snapshot only offline snapshot

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                    • bmeeksB
                      bmeeks
                      last edited by

                      A VM running UniFi Controller is nice, and is what I use at home currently. However, if you have a PoE switch I would very seriously consider running the CloudKey USB dongle. I use one for our church setup. Works great.

                      Yeah, it's more expensive than a VM if you already have the hypervisor hardware, but it you don't have the hardware, then the cost of the CloudKey is pretty reasonable (assuming you have a PoE switch already for your UniFi APs). Of course with no PoE switch to plug the dongle into, then a VM is a better option.

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                      • JKnottJ
                        JKnott @johnpoz
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                        @johnpoz

                        I live in a condo, which a single AP covers well. Even the TP-Link did that. What VM are you referring to? I have VirtualBox on a couple of computers and had considered an Ubuntu VM to run the controller.

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                          viragomann @johnpoz
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                          @johnpoz said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                          I leave mine up all the time because I like the info that provides you.. But its not really a requirement to have the controller up and running 24/7

                          Isn't it necessary for seamless roaming to run the controller 24/7?

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                          • JKnottJ
                            JKnott @viragomann
                            last edited by

                            @viragomann said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                            Isn't it necessary for seamless roaming to run the controller 24/7?

                            With only a single AP, I wouldn't have a lot of roaming. 😉

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                              viragomann @JKnott
                              last edited by

                              @JKnott
                              But @johnpoz has multiple.

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                              • bingo600B
                                bingo600 @viragomann
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                                @viragomann said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                                Isn't it necessary for seamless roaming to run the controller 24/7?

                                Can the UBI's run seamless roaming ?

                                I know my Cisco WLC's can but they tunnel every endpoint back to the controller. And the WLC's have hefty CPU's for the encapsulation.

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                                • JKnottJ
                                  JKnott @bingo600
                                  last edited by

                                  @bingo600

                                  That's one thing I didn't care for about the Cisco APs. On a large network, that's going to be a lot of traffic through the controller.

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                                  • bingo600B
                                    bingo600 @JKnott
                                    last edited by

                                    @JKnott said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                                    @bingo600

                                    That's one thing I didn't care for about the Cisco APs. On a large network, that's going to be a lot of traffic through the controller.

                                    Right .. But in a multi floor building w. a Vlan for each floor. It's pretty cool to just be wandering around with your lappy , and a VoIP call wo. a drop.

                                    I don't like the price (WLC) , but love the feature.

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                                      serbus
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                                      Hello!

                                      The unifi controller runs great on a raspberry pi.
                                      Compact, reliable, and cheap.

                                      John

                                      Lex parsimoniae

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator
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                                        You don't need the controller to roam.. To answer that question.. Only thing you would really need the controller for is if you were using the captive portal stuff, guest network stuff - hotspot, etc.

                                        But if its not running you will not have the history of what your clients were doing, how your AP(s) were doing, etc. etc..

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                                        • JKnottJ
                                          JKnott @bingo600
                                          last edited by

                                          @bingo600 said in Unifi controller on pfsense?:

                                          Right .. But in a multi floor building w. a Vlan for each floor. It's pretty cool to just be wandering around with your lappy , and a VoIP call wo. a drop.
                                          I don't like the price (WLC) , but love the feature.

                                          I first heard of such a system about 11 - 12 years ago. I don't recall the make, but they called it a "blanket". Each AP had to be connected directly back to the controller, without even a switch in between.

                                          Back in 2005 I was working at IBM (my 2nd time there) supporting a major U.S. telecom. One woman called in complaining that the Wifi didn't work in the parking garage, an area that specifically didn't have Wifi. She didn't want to accept that as an answer.

                                          PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                          i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
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