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(solved) 2.5 connecting via hostname not working across interfaces

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    Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
    last edited by Bob.Dig Mar 10, 2021, 6:58 PM Mar 10, 2021, 6:54 PM

    @johnpoz It is still looking different here:

    PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> nslookup
    Default Server:  pfSense.home.arpa
    Address:  192.168.1.1
    
    >  set querytype=A
    >  set debug
    > mail
    Server:  pfSense.home.arpa
    Address:  192.168.1.1
    
    ------------
    Got answer:
        HEADER:
            opcode = QUERY, id = 2, rcode = NXDOMAIN
            header flags:  response, want recursion, recursion avail.
            questions = 1,  answers = 0,  authority records = 1,  additional = 0
    
        QUESTIONS:
            mail, type = A, class = IN
        AUTHORITY RECORDS:
        ->  (root)
            ttl = 612 (10 mins 12 secs)
            primary name server = a.root-servers.net
            responsible mail addr = nstld.verisign-grs.com
            serial  = 2021031001
            refresh = 1800 (30 mins)
            retry   = 900 (15 mins)
            expire  = 604800 (7 days)
            default TTL = 86400 (1 day)
    
    ------------
    *** pfSense.home.arpa can't find mail: Non-existent domain
    
    PS C:\WINDOWS\system32> ipconfig -all
    
    Windows IP Configuration
    
       Host Name . . . . . . . . . . . . : U5
       Primary Dns Suffix  . . . . . . . :
       Node Type . . . . . . . . . . . . : Hybrid
       IP Routing Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
       WINS Proxy Enabled. . . . . . . . : No
       DNS Suffix Search List. . . . . . : home.arpa
    

    Really have no clue why it is working again and not before.

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      Gertjan @Bob.Dig
      last edited by Gertjan Mar 11, 2021, 7:40 AM Mar 11, 2021, 7:36 AM

      @bob-dig

      My turn :
      I don't have a local host name called 'mail', but I have one called 'diskstation2' :

      C:\Users\Gauche>nslookup
      Serveur par dÚfaut :   pfsense.my-domain.net
      Address:  2001:470:1f13:5c0:2::1
      
      > set querytype=A
      > set debug
      > diskstation2
      Serveur :   pfsense.my-domain.net
      Address:  2001:470:1f13:5c0:2::1
      
      ------------
      Got answer:
          HEADER:
              opcode = QUERY, id = 2, rcode = NOERROR
              header flags:  response, auth. answer, want recursion, recursion avail.
              questions = 1,  answers = 1,  authority records = 0,  additional = 0
      
          QUESTIONS:
              diskstation2.my-domain, type = A, class = IN
          ANSWERS:
          ->  diskstation2.my-domain.net
              internet address = 192.168.1.33
              ttl = 3600 (1 hour)
      
      ------------
      Nom :    diskstation2.my-domain.net
      Address:  192.168.1.33
      
      >
      
      C:\Users\Gauche>ipconfig -all
      
      Configuration IP de Windows
      
         Nom de l’hôte . . . . . . . . . . : Gauche2
      ......
         Liste de recherche du suffixe DNS.: my-domain.net
      
      Carte Ethernet Ethernet :
      
         Suffixe DNS propre à la connexion. . . : my-domain.net
         Description. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Intel(R) Ethernet Connection (11) I219-LM
         Adresse physique . . . . . . . . . . . : A4-BB-AC-BA-16-A1
         DHCP activé. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : Oui
         Configuration automatique activée. . . : Oui
         Adresse IPv6. . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 2001:470:beef:5c0:2::c7(prefered)
         Bail obtenu. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : mercredi 10 mars 2021 06:51:57
         Bail expirant. . . . . . . . . . . . . : jeudi 11 mars 2021 10:04:47
         Adresse IPv6 de liaison locale. . . . .: fe80::410c:5e0d:e1a1:6075%10(prefered)
         Adresse IPv4. . . . . . . . . . . . . .: 192.168.1.6(prefered)
         Masque de sous-réseau. . . . . . . . . : 255.255.255.0
         Bail obtenu. . . . . . . . . . . . . . : mercredi 10 mars 2021 08:18:04
         Bail expirant. . . . . . . . . . . . . : vendredi 12 mars 2021 00:38:52
         Passerelle par défaut. . . . . . . . . : fe80::215:17ff:fe77:d118%10
                                             192.168.1.1
         Serveur DHCP . . . . . . . . . . . . . : 192.168.1.1
         IAID DHCPv6 . . . . . . . . . . . : 111459181
         DUID de client DHCPv6. . . . . . . . : 00-01-00-01-26-AC-DF-8D-BB-BB-6D-BA-16-A1
         Serveurs DNS. . .  . . . . . . . . . . : 2001:470:1f13:5c0:2::1
                                             192.168.1.1
      

      Your 'unbound' doesn't know it lives in "home.arpa" so it should (should it ?) try also
      mail.home.arpa
      which should be in the /etc/hosts file on pfSense, thus known to unbound, as it reads /etc/hosts at start-up.
      IF not, give that host called 'mail' a static DHCP MAC lease **, or host override it on the unbound settings page.

      ** and keep this checked :
      8e8d861d-84e6-4161-b17b-c9abece68f3d-image.png

      edit : I'm not using a domain like "home.arpa". As I need known 'cert' on my LAN, I use a 'real' (rented) domain name for internal uses and acme. I don't think that difference matters.

      My unbound knows that :diskstaion2 is local, as it is definced in /etc/hosts/

      .....
      192.168.1.33	DiskStation2.my-domain.net DiskStation2
      ....
      

      Strange to see that unbound even bothers a main root server with a non valid host name like 'mail'.

      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @Gertjan
        last edited by Mar 11, 2021, 7:42 AM

        @gertjan Bonjour.
        They all got a static mapping and this box is checked all the time.
        So still no clue why this behavior changed and now has changed again.
        C’est la vie...

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          Gertjan @Bob.Dig
          last edited by Mar 11, 2021, 8:08 AM

          @bob-dig said in [solved] 2.5 connecting via hostname not working across interfaces:

          C’est la vie...

          Coté fichier /etc/hosts : toutes tes hôtes y figurent ?

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @Gertjan
            last edited by Mar 11, 2021, 8:15 AM

            @gertjan I think we were there already.
            Adieu 😉

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              Gertjan @Bob.Dig
              last edited by Gertjan Mar 11, 2021, 8:33 AM Mar 11, 2021, 8:33 AM

              @bob-dig

              I knew it. The question sounded familiar 😊

              No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
              Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                Bob.Dig LAYER 8
                last edited by Apr 4, 2021, 10:28 AM

                I have to bring that up because it is an ongoing problem. Sometimes it works over other interfaces, sometimes it doesn't.

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                  Bob.Dig LAYER 8
                  last edited by Apr 4, 2021, 5:25 PM

                  I enabled Register DHCP leases in the DNS Resolver in addition to the already enabled Register DHCP static mappings in the DNS Resolver and now it is working again, before even FQDN wasn't working. It is a mess.

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                    Bob.Dig LAYER 8
                    last edited by Bob.Dig Apr 7, 2021, 6:07 PM Apr 7, 2021, 6:07 PM

                    I noticed that sometimes my windows can't connect even if via ip it is possible and even the dns resolution is working according to nslookup. It is making no sense to me.

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                      johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                      last edited by Apr 7, 2021, 6:21 PM

                      Are you IPs changing? This isn't freaking rocket science ;) But it does require some basic understanding of dns and networking..

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                        Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
                        last edited by Bob.Dig Apr 8, 2021, 8:04 AM Apr 8, 2021, 8:01 AM

                        @johnpoz They don't change but the windows smb shares don't work anymore, unreachable, although via IP it is working.
                        But I don't know what the reason is, an ARP problem maybe? It is two Windows PCs across different interfaces.

                        But I just noticed that the problem was different when I started this thread. It somehow looks related to me but it might not be.

                        johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Apr 8, 2021, 9:53 AM Reply Quote 0
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                          johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                          last edited by Apr 8, 2021, 9:53 AM

                          Well troubleshoot the problem - if its not working via IP, it has zero to do with name resolution.

                          Sniff - what happens.. Does pfsense send on the syn.. Then its not pfsense..

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                            Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
                            last edited by Bob.Dig Apr 8, 2021, 11:18 AM Apr 8, 2021, 11:09 AM

                            @johnpoz It always does work with IP, names some of the time.
                            But to my later problem, I had ACL one machine to use the resolver only for local stuff. Maybe windows will not use it anymore and will favor the other... hard to tell. I switched to ip and will stay there, at least in that vm.
                            The original problem, RDP just over the hostname seems gone, it always works so, even across interfaces.

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                              johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                              last edited by Apr 8, 2021, 1:10 PM

                              @bob-dig said in 2.5 connecting via hostname not working across interfaces:

                              I had ACL one machine to use the resolver only for local stuff.

                              Huh? How exactly do you think that could work? While sure you can set the ACL to only be able to resolve local stuff. How would that client then resolve public stuff? You can't just point a client to 2 different NS that resolve different things and not have problems.

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                                Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
                                last edited by Apr 8, 2021, 1:11 PM

                                @johnpoz It worked for some time... but it is probably the reason for the latest problems.

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                                  Bob.Dig LAYER 8
                                  last edited by Bob.Dig Jun 30, 2021, 6:31 PM Jun 30, 2021, 6:16 PM

                                  I once again had to reinstall a fresh pfSense and guess what is not working again, RDP only via hostname.
                                  But it seems related to using DHCP on my Windows. If I am using DHCP for IPv4, I can connect via hostname. If I dial-in the same settings manually, I only can connect via FQDN.
                                  So it is all a windows "thingy". Weird but now I know at least this.

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                                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                                    last edited by Jun 30, 2021, 8:54 PM

                                    @bob-dig You can not resolve just hostname unless you are on the same L2 and broadcast for it.

                                    If you actually setup your network correctly be able to resolve everything via FQDN, and your window devices would auto add the domain your using locally via domain suffix.

                                    This is a layer 8 issue...

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                                      Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
                                      last edited by Bob.Dig Jul 1, 2021, 6:38 AM Jul 1, 2021, 6:37 AM

                                      @johnpoz said in (solved) 2.5 connecting via hostname not working across interfaces:

                                      This is a layer 8 issue...

                                      I got you.

                                      But there is still one missing puzzle peace. Why the heck it will work after some time (weeks), even if I dialed in the settings my self only in the first window of the IPv4 Properties, missing out on the DNS suffix field? Only Windows knows.

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                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @Bob.Dig
                                        last edited by Jul 1, 2021, 12:25 PM

                                        @bob-dig said in (solved) 2.5 connecting via hostname not working across interfaces:

                                        missing out on the DNS suffix field? Only Windows knows.

                                        Huh?? Sorry I can not make any sense of that... You either broadcast for a hostname, or you resolve a fqdn.. There is no "puzzle" to it..

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                                          Bob.Dig LAYER 8 @johnpoz
                                          last edited by Jul 1, 2021, 1:47 PM

                                          @johnpoz said in (solved) 2.5 connecting via hostname not working across interfaces:

                                          There is no "puzzle" to it..

                                          Riddle me this. Why is it for some time not working and later it is?

                                          johnpozJ 1 Reply Last reply Jul 1, 2021, 2:01 PM Reply Quote 0
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