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    What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?

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    • chudakC
      chudak
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      All of the sudden I started getting emails from pfsense like this:

      hostname: <unknown>
      ip address: 169.254.178.43
      ethernet address: 6c:e8:5c:60:d2:dc
      ethernet vendor: Apple, Inc.
      timestamp: Thursday, May 13, 2021 19:08:23 -0700

      Wonder what it is?

      Thx

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      • KOMK
        KOM @chudak
        last edited by

        @chudak It's an APIPA address.

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        • chudakC
          chudak @KOM
          last edited by chudak

          @kom said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

          @chudak It's an APIPA address.

          Thx
          So is it indicative of DHCP problem ?

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          • KOMK
            KOM @chudak
            last edited by

            @chudak Not necessarily. It may be that the Apple device in question assumes that address and makes some announcements before acquiring a real address from your DHCP server. Just a guess. Are you having any problems with DHCP in general?

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            • chudakC
              chudak @KOM
              last edited by chudak

              @kom said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

              @chudak Not necessarily. It may be that the Apple device in question assumes that address and makes some announcements before acquiring a real address from your DHCP server. Just a guess. Are you having any problems with DHCP in general?

              Not really AFAIK

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              • KOMK
                KOM @chudak
                last edited by

                @chudak I wouldn't worry about it then.

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                • chudakC
                  chudak @KOM
                  last edited by

                  @kom said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

                  @chudak I wouldn't worry about it then.

                  Ok thx !

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                    Patch @chudak
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                    @chudak said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

                    All of the sudden I started getting emails from pfsense like this: ...
                    ip address: 169.254.178.43

                    I guess it is related to IPv4 link-local (169.254.x.x) gateway does not function
                    With 2.5.1 intermittently my laptop doesn't get a valid IP address, instead getting one from 169.254.x.x which in not in my LAN IP address range.

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                    • GertjanG
                      Gertjan @Patch
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                      @patch said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

                      instead getting one from 169.254.x.x which in not in my LAN IP address range

                      Not 'getting'.
                      Self-assigning.
                      Because it could find a DHCP server that would give it a DHCP lease, or, nuance, it got a lease that it wouldn't accept.

                      Routing to the Internet won't work of course.

                      No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
                      Edit : and where are the logs ??

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                      • JKnottJ
                        JKnott @Patch
                        last edited by

                        @patch

                        Those 169.254 addresses indicate a DHCP problem, not gateway. The DHCP client will revert to one of those addresses when a DHCP address isn't available.

                        PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                        i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                        UniFi AC-Lite access point

                        I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                        • chudakC
                          chudak @JKnott
                          last edited by

                          @jknott said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

                          @patch

                          Those 169.254 addresses indicate a DHCP problem, not gateway. The DHCP client will revert to one of those addresses when a DHCP address isn't available.

                          how troubleshoot it ?

                          thx

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                          • JKnottJ
                            JKnott @chudak
                            last edited by

                            @chudak

                            One thing you can do is packet capture to see what's happening. Also, is it just one device that gets that address? Or all? If all, then it's likely the DHCP server. If just one, then the problem is with that device.

                            Run Packet Capture on the LAN interface and filter or DHCP. Then connect that device and see what turns up.

                            PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                            i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                            UniFi AC-Lite access point

                            I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                            • chudakC
                              chudak @JKnott
                              last edited by

                              @jknott said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

                              @chudak

                              One thing you can do is packet capture to see what's happening. Also, is it just one device that gets that address? Or all? If all, then it's likely the DHCP server. If just one, then the problem is with that device.

                              Run Packet Capture on the LAN interface and filter or DHCP. Then connect that device and see what turns up.

                              Ok copy will try.
                              Based on MAC it's my iPhone and it does not happen on all devices and too often.

                              Thx

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                              • JKnottJ
                                JKnott @chudak
                                last edited by

                                @chudak

                                When you capture an occasion when it fails, do you see anything from the DHCP server? However, if it only happens with that phone and only occasionally, it's likely a phone problem, not pfsense. Is it an older phone? Is it one of those that slows down when the battery doesn't hold a charge as well?

                                PfSense running on Qotom mini PC
                                i5 CPU, 4 GB memory, 32 GB SSD & 4 Intel Gb Ethernet ports.
                                UniFi AC-Lite access point

                                I haven't lost my mind. It's around here...somewhere...

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                                • chudakC
                                  chudak @JKnott
                                  last edited by

                                  @jknott said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

                                  @chudak

                                  When you capture an occasion when it fails, do you see anything from the DHCP server? However, if it only happens with that phone and only occasionally, it's likely a phone problem, not pfsense. Is it an older phone? Is it one of those that slows down when the battery doesn't hold a charge as well?

                                  It's not an old phone, I think.
                                  Need to keep an eye on it to be answer to answer all questions :)

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                                    jdeloach @chudak
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                                      SteveITS Galactic Empire @chudak
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                                      @chudak said in What is IP 169.254.178.43 ?:

                                      emails from pfsense

                                      It's an email? That implies something in pfSense is triggering an alert that is sending you a notification email. What is in the logs at that time?

                                      By itself the text shown seems rather meaningless...as noted an APIPA address is self-assigned by the default when DHCP isn't functioning. But then why would pfSense even know about the IP in a subnet that's not its own? And what is the alert that is triggering...there is no alert or error as written? What is the email subject?

                                      re: Private Address, that is for creating a unique MAC address not IP address.

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