having troubles setting up DNS for VPN and non VPN right

comet424

so i been having issues for a while not sure how i fix or if its possible?
so i have on my network
some computers are behind NordVPN
and some computers are setup to go directly out the WAN so bypass's the VPN

but what i find is if on a VPN it can say use amazon.ca but if i use the Non VPN if using Internet Edge the page wont load right, sometimes its hit and miss on loading on Chrome or Firefox.
but if i swith that computer to the VPN connection no problems

but problem is i have local dnsnames like for HomeAssistant or my Unraid etc
and if i use 192.168.0.1 that use the VPN clients i can use my local dns names

but my non VPN computer
if i use 192.168.0.1 also that points to the pfsense box.. local dns works.. but amazon doesnt like to work

so i tried doing for my Static ip for the non vpn computer
i tried

blank dns

i tried
192.168.0.1
1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1

i tried
1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1

i tried
1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1
192.168.0.1

if i set the DNS's to 1.1.1.1 1.0.0.1
least Amazon works but local DNS names no longer work
if i add 192.168.0.1 at first and then teh 1.1.1.1.. local works but amazon doesnt work
if i dod the 1.1.1.1 and then lastly use the 192.168.0.1 then amazon works but i still loose local dns

is there a way to get amazon to work and my local DNs names to work
where you have some clients using VPN and some using straight but i want to be able to access local dns names and externals like amazon

or i cant i can only do 1 or the other

and i not using VLANs all the same 192.168.0.x just a section is set for VPN and a section is non vpn

just curious if its a setting i might checked off i shouldnt etc
i figured adding the 3 dns's so if local dns's wouldnt be found on the 1.1.1.1 it goto the 192.168.0.1 but it didnt work that way.. and i tried reboots in between..

also i notice lot of websites seem slower for my computers not using VPN when the DNS is 192.168.0.1 either sites wont load or just slow.. i guessing it gets jambled when pfsense try to seperate the 2 and probably cant but then i probably did something wrong

comet424

oh and my current setup
1.1.1.1
1.0.0.1
192.168.0.1

works then it stops working then it will come back

so i can ping say homeassistant
i get the other IP then say 10 min later
it couldnt do my ping request.. then give it another 10 min or so
it will be able to do domain names again

so i guess im conflicting it so it works then stops working
i did try the DNS forwarder.. i chose LAN network figured it would force the local 192.168.0.1 to the local LAN but thats probably not what it does