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      okjello
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      I have a fresh install of pfsense, pretty vanilla setup, internal 1 vlan 10.1.0.x/23
      external dhcp on cable modem. I play an old game and connect to a server 138.197.130.124, you should be able to ping it, and I i plug direct into cable modem I can but not while in pfsense. I cant see anywhere where its blocking.

      It is not like its a rule issue as I cant even ping... not sure how to troubleshoot this one...

      Mark

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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        Hmm, well if it can be pinged it should respond. I assume you have 'allow all rules' on your internal interface?

        Check the states in Diag > States when you are trying to ping. Do you see the state opened for on it on LAN and NAT'd on WAN?

        Steve

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          okjello @stephenw10
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          @stephenw10
          Thanks for reply, I do see the state
          LAN icmp 10.1.0.45:1 -> 138.197.130.124:1 0:0 45 / 0 3 KiB / 0 B

          compared that to ping on google

          LAN icmp 10.1.0.45:1 -> 172.217.165.131:1 0:0 7 / 7 420 B / 420 B

          So looks like im sending but not receiving....
          If i plug directly into cable modem i can ping with reply no issues, or from my phone or other network. but as soon and i connect pfsense I'm unable to successfully ping even from pfsense gui. so strange...

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            viragomann @okjello
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            @okjello
            You should see these states on WAN as well.

            You WAN interface is configured by the modems DHCP?
            Check Status > Interfaces and Status > Gateways for proper configuration.

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            • stephenw10S
              stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
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              Yup, you should see a state on WAN too with the private internal IP NAT'd to the WAN address.

              Steve

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                johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @okjello
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                @okjello said in Unable to ping a specific public ip when using pfsense not when bypass.:

                138.197.130.124

                This is the states you should see when pinging something on the internet

                states.jpg

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                  okjello
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                  I see it on the wan also but its not right...

                  WAN icmp 64.66.xxx.xx:44889 (10.1.0.45:1) -> 138.197.130.124:44889 0:0 8 / 0 480 B / 0 B

                  Is it picking random port? 44889 yours shows 54414 ?

                  So strange

                  Maybe i will just reload pfsense? It is a fresh install, no addons or anything. Running a a laptop with gig usb3 and onboard. Tons of resources.

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                    johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @okjello
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                    @okjello said in Unable to ping a specific public ip when using pfsense not when bypass.:

                    Is it picking random port? 44889 yours shows 54414 ?

                    icmp doesn't really have a port.. But yes the way napt works is a "random" source port above 1023 will be used.

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                    • stephenw10S
                      stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                      last edited by

                      Yup, and that shouldn't be an issue.

                      I assume you are able to ping other addresses?

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                        okjello @stephenw10
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                        @stephenw10
                        yes everything else i ping fine, by ip or dns. and if i plug into modem directly i can ping it, so strange

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                          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @okjello
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                          @okjello Is the IP address you're trying to ping the specific monitoring IP address for the Bypass Gateway?

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                          • stephenw10S
                            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                            last edited by

                            Mmm, it responds to ping fine for me and @johnpoz so not something pfSense specific.

                            Can we see your firewall rules? Do you have anything specific for that IP?

                            Steve

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                              okjello @stephenw10
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                              @stephenw10
                              Just the default rules
                              0 /394 KiB

                              • RFC 1918 networks * * * * * Block private networks
                                0 /0 B
                              • Reserved
                                Not assigned by IANA * * * * * Block bogon networks

                              Lan rules
                              3 /993 KiB

                                  • LAN Address 80 * * Anti-Lockout Rule
                                    69 /2.54 GiB
                                    IPv4 * LAN net * * * * none Default allow LAN to any rule
                                    0 /0 B
                                    IPv6 * LAN net * * * * none Default allow LAN IPv6 to any rule

                              I did try to setup allow rules for this ip as i connect to this server on port 16567. I couldn't connect with or with out rules I made. I can connect to other game servers. it soo strange. I might just try reload pfsense as i have nothing really configured on it.

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                                okjello
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                                @okjello said in Unable to ping a specific public ip when using pfsense not when bypass.:

                                138.197.130.124

                                So I just reloaded pfsense, I installed 2.6.0-RELEASE on a toshiba laptop with i5 cpu and a usb nic.

                                Every webpage and thing I ping works except 138.197.130.124.

                                Normally I would think my public ip is being blocked etc but i can unplug the uplink from cable modem to pfsense and plug my computer directly into cable modem and i can ping that ip all day long.

                                only thing i configured is the wan and lan with loccal ip 10.1.0.1/23 everyting else except password in out of box config....

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                                  johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @okjello
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                                  @okjello sniff on wan while your sniffing - do you see the ping go out? If so then its not pfsense..

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                                    okjello @johnpoz
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                                    @johnpoz

                                    I just tried to ping while using Surfshark vpn and I can ping. Thank kinda makes sense.

                                    I will try packet capture and see

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                                      okjello @okjello
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                                      @okjello
                                      So this is my Lan side, 10.1.0.45 my pc, the 172 was a google ping
                                      I do not see replies from 138.197.130.124.

                                      21:10:24.039494 IP 10.1.0.45 > 172.217.13.163: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 11068, length 40
                                      21:10:24.065435 IP 172.217.13.163 > 10.1.0.45: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 11068, length 40
                                      21:10:24.774889 IP 10.1.0.45.55445 > 142.251.16.189.443: UDP, length 33
                                      21:10:24.818331 IP 142.251.16.189.443 > 10.1.0.45.55445: UDP, length 26
                                      21:10:25.050849 IP 10.1.0.45 > 172.217.13.163: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 11069, length 40
                                      21:10:25.081907 IP 172.217.13.163 > 10.1.0.45: ICMP echo reply, id 1, seq 11069, length 40
                                      21:10:25.531754 IP 10.1.0.45.59249 > 172.253.63.188.5228: tcp 1
                                      21:10:25.576188 IP 172.253.63.188.5228 > 10.1.0.45.59249: tcp 0
                                      21:10:26.363807 IP 10.1.0.45 > 138.197.130.124: ICMP echo request, id 1, seq 11070, length 40
                                      21:10:26.424892 IP 10.1.0.45.55445 > 142.251.16.189.443: UDP, length 33
                                      21:10:26.468575 IP 142.251.16.189.443 > 10.1.0.45.55445: UDP, length 26
                                      21:10:27.249660 IP 10.1.0.45.59292 > 172.217.13.197.443: tcp 1

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                                      • johnpozJ
                                        johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @okjello
                                        last edited by johnpoz

                                        @okjello sniff on your WAN!!

                                        Do you see the echo request go out? Its that simple - yes or no? You said you can ping google, so why would you would think showing us that?

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                                          rcoleman-netgate Netgate @okjello
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                                          @okjello Is the IP address you're trying to ping the specific monitoring IP address for the Bypass Gateway?

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                                            johnpoz LAYER 8 Global Moderator @okjello
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                                            @okjello said in Unable to ping a specific public ip when using pfsense not when bypass.:

                                            WAN icmp 64.66.xxx.xx:44889 (10.1.0.45:1) -> 138.197.130.124:44889 0:0 8 / 0 480 B / 0 B

                                            If your showing state then that means it went outbound - if it went outbound and you don't get a response that has ZERO to do with pfsense.

                                            You plugging a different device into a cable modem gets you a different IP.. Because your mac changes.

                                            I want you to sniff on pfsense wan so you see the traffic go out for yourself.. This isn't a pfsense issue.. This is upstream.

                                            Just think for 2 seconds.. What thing could be wrong on a clean install to some IP, but every other IP works..

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