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    • Sammy2NetgoS
      Sammy2Netgo
      last edited by Sammy2Netgo

      My isp has upgraded my area from gpon to xgs pon
      So i had to swap my isp provided nokia gpon sfp to nokia xgspon sfp now my netgate 7100 will not detect the sfp
      All i see in dash beside wan is red circle x
      Same brand but different structure/wavelength
      Would a 10G sfp to sfp media converter work to fix it ?
      Anyone with same situation ?Any solutions to this ?
      If not what sfp+ pcie card from the freebsd would work as a wan for xgspon ?

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      • stephenw10S
        stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
        last edited by

        Did the gpon sfp module work there?

        Do you see any errors at boot with the new module in there?
        You could the unsupported module sysctl.

        There's really no way to know what might work with that module unfortunately. You just have to test what you have.

        Steve

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        • Sammy2NetgoS
          Sammy2Netgo @stephenw10
          last edited by

          @stephenw10
          Hello;-) yes the nokia gpon module works and gets detected but with new module in dash beside wan instead of seeing green like with the gpon its showing red x circle and when i hover with mouse over it it says no client detected for the Nokia xgspon module
          Unfortunately since my isp switched to xgs pon they also switched it on the main box panel on the street to xgspon so now when i put in the gpon module in , it gets detected but no ip i wish netgate pfsense provided a solution cause im hearing that many isp are switching to xgspon which supports symmetrical 10G download and upload eventhou but they have me provisioned at 2.5G each way.

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          • stephenw10S
            stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
            last edited by

            Well what have you tried? Just observed the interface status shows as disconnected?

            What does ifconfig show? Does it 'see' the module at all?

            Does the boot log show an error? Have you tries the sysctl?

            Steve

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            • Sammy2NetgoS
              Sammy2Netgo @stephenw10
              last edited by

              @stephenw10
              How would i tell if it detects the sfp or see whats going on with it in the configs?when i hover over the dash wan with red circle it says no client detected.
              I thought it was due to the mac id as my isp dhcp leases rely on mac id so when i change my mac id so does my ip.
              But that wasnt the case.
              I also tried putting back the old gpon sfp that got detected right away but no ip becuase they switched ports to xgs port on outside street main panel also-so it will not give me an ip with the gpon working sfp.
              Thats all i did for now.
              Im new to netgate and am not sure where would i go to tweak or see the sfp configs my wan is configured for the sfp port on the left which i think is ix0

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                Jarhead @Sammy2Netgo
                last edited by

                @sammy2netgo

                @stephenw10 's First suggestion:
                SSH into pfSense and type ifconfig.
                If you don't know how to SSH, go to diagnostics/ command Prompt and type ifconfig in the execute command field and press enter.

                His second suggestion:
                Go to Status/System logs/System/OS boot.
                Any errors in there?

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                • stephenw10S
                  stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                  last edited by

                  Mmm, assuming you're using ix0 as your WAN you would run at the command line:

                  [22.05-RELEASE][admin@6100.stevew.lan]/root: ifconfig -vvv ix0
                  ix0: flags=8843<UP,BROADCAST,RUNNING,SIMPLEX,MULTICAST> metric 0 mtu 1500
                  	description: WAN3
                  	options=e138bb<RXCSUM,TXCSUM,VLAN_MTU,VLAN_HWTAGGING,JUMBO_MTU,VLAN_HWCSUM,WOL_UCAST,WOL_MCAST,WOL_MAGIC,VLAN_HWFILTER,RXCSUM_IPV6,TXCSUM_IPV6>
                  	ether 00:08:a2:12:17:7e
                  	inet6 fe80::208:a2ff:fe12:177e%ix0 prefixlen 64 scopeid 0x5
                  	media: Ethernet autoselect (10Gbase-Twinax <full-duplex,rxpause,txpause>)
                  	status: active
                  	nd6 options=21<PERFORMNUD,AUTO_LINKLOCAL>
                  	plugged: SFP/SFP+/SFP28 1X Copper Active (Copper pigtail)
                  	vendor: BROCADE PN: 58-1000027-01 SN: CBMB110100409D5 DATE: 2011-01-10
                  
                  	SFF8472 DUMP (0xA0 0..127 range):
                  	03 04 21 02 00 00 04 41 88 80 D5 00 67 00 00 00 
                  	00 00 03 00 42 52 4F 43 41 44 45 20 20 20 20 20 
                  	20 20 20 20 00 00 05 1E 35 38 2D 31 30 30 30 30 
                  	32 37 2D 30 31 20 20 20 41 20 20 20 0C 00 00 78 
                  	00 12 00 00 43 42 4D 42 31 31 30 31 30 30 34 30 
                  	39 44 35 20 31 31 30 31 31 30 20 20 00 00 00 E3 
                  	35 37 39 38 39 30 30 30 34 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 
                  	20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 20 42 20 20 20 
                  

                  And you should at least see some info from module like that.

                  Steve

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                  • ?
                    A Former User
                    last edited by A Former User

                    My isp has upgraded my area from gpon to xgs pon

                    You must ask your ISP how they delivers the xgspon line
                    to your resident! Seldom, but seen in "the wild" (real life)
                    they change equipment, because XGSPON will be the newest standard.

                    So i had to swap my isp provided nokia gpon sfp
                    to nokia xgspon sfp now my netgate 7100 will not
                    detect the sfp

                    It can perhaps detect the xgspon module, but you will often need a special router that is capable to manage
                    it, because with XGSPON your ISP is able to deliver
                    many services over the same line (not the cable itself).
                    Using XGSPON it is not able to use only a media convertor
                    because there will be an extra communication between the FAN (Fiber Access Node) and ONT that must be matching.

                    All i see in dash beside wan is red circle x
                    Same brand but different structure/wavelength

                    It is not able to realize because on one line (not cable/wire) they will be able to realize or offer more than one service to their customers. 1577 nm Downstream and 1270 nm Upstream

                    But this is also the better solution, if someone will be upgrading now, you can have often (pending on the equipment) get faster hands on a symmetric 10 GBit/s line!
                    It is because they use all different ranges (wavelength)
                    but all are between 1260nm and 1650nm. No more
                    cables must bechanged.

                    Would a 10G sfp to sfp media converter work to fix it ?

                    No luck, no way for you. Again also the media converter
                    is not able to realize the on top coming connection to offer their customers many different services over one line.
                    (Not the cable/wire is meant here)

                    Anyone with same situation ?Any solutions to this ?

                    pfSense & Swisscom.ch XGSPON
                    pfSense & Swisscom.ch XGSPON
                    Workaround only with a device named Zyxel AX7501 mit XGSPON SFP+ in the bridged mode, acting as a pure modem and not a router in front of the pfSense
                    You see, you will be not alone with that problem.

                    If not what sfp+ pcie card from the freebsd would work > as a wan for xgspon ?

                    Zyxel AX7501 mit XGSPON SFP+ in the so called bridged mode and acting as a pure modem brings is able to establish that on top coming connection WAN port as I am informed. Pending on the
                    service your ISP are offering to you.

                    A hint by site for you; if you have as an ISP the cable lying in the earth (tube), and those services will be in usage to
                    your clients it is really easy to offer different services over different line (Modes)!! They use 1260 nm to1650 nm
                    as a time frame window and therefore they are able to offer G-PON, XGS-PON and NG-PON2 over the same fiber cable.

                    Between 1260nm to 1650nm is meant here, you see the
                    1577nm / 1270nm from your XGS-PON is lying fully inside
                    of that range and no new cable must be changed here.

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                    • Sammy2NetgoS
                      Sammy2Netgo @Jarhead
                      last edited by

                      @jarhead
                      Hello,i went to system log and im getting
                      Error dpinger pid80179 wan dhcp (Ip address) sendto error 64 what foes that mean ?and how to fix?

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                        Jarhead @Sammy2Netgo
                        last edited by

                        @sammy2netgo Thats because you don't have a wan conection.
                        Fix it by fixing the xgspon trouble.

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                        • Sammy2NetgoS
                          Sammy2Netgo @Jarhead
                          last edited by

                          @jarhead
                          How would i fix the xgs wan trouble?

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                            Jarhead @Sammy2Netgo
                            last edited by

                            @sammy2netgo Probably have to get an ONT from your provider if the sfp doesn't work.

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                            • Sammy2NetgoS
                              Sammy2Netgo @Jarhead
                              last edited by

                              @jarhead
                              I found another interesting thing in logs:
                              Dhcp client on wan ix1 pid 49709 dhcpdiscover on ix1 to
                              255.255.255.255 port 67 interval 3 what does that mean ?

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                                Jarhead @Sammy2Netgo
                                last edited by Jarhead

                                @sammy2netgo You don't have a wan right now. Yiou will see all kinds of errors on it. Disregard them until you figure out how to get a connection.

                                Did you do Stephens suggestions yet??

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                                • Sammy2NetgoS
                                  Sammy2Netgo @Jarhead
                                  last edited by

                                  @jarhead no not yet,Is there a way i can execute this through command prompt of the netgate ?I didnt setup my system for ssh yet

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                                  • J
                                    Jarhead @Sammy2Netgo
                                    last edited by

                                    @sammy2netgo Go back and read my posts

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                                    • Sammy2NetgoS
                                      Sammy2Netgo @Jarhead
                                      last edited by

                                      @jarhead
                                      Already did no errors detected in system os boot
                                      I see php-fpm pid 54859 /interfaces.php:accept router
                                      advertisements on interface ix1
                                      Which is my wan

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                                        Jarhead @Sammy2Netgo
                                        last edited by

                                        @sammy2netgo Are you sure you read it???

                                        Screenshot 2022-07-24 134720.png

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                                        • stephenw10S
                                          stephenw10 Netgate Administrator
                                          last edited by

                                          Or just enable SSH which is one checkbox:
                                          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/config/advanced-admin.html#secure-shell-ssh

                                          Or use the console directly.

                                          But there's a good chance you can't create a connection directly using just the module. And the code to separate the WAN data from other available services may not exist in pfSense.

                                          Steve

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                                            anylettuce
                                            last edited by

                                            few questions to the OP or others
                                            I was able to get the gpon sfp unit to work but now working on xgs-pon. No mater what I plug the xgs-pon unit into I can not get it to light up and detected.
                                            My primary question is those with the xgs-pon sfp+ unit did you at least get the option to select that unit? I just want to make sure it is not a dead unit.

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