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Sizing for Captive Portal

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    diwoda
    last edited by Sep 24, 2022, 8:07 PM

    Hi everybody, I am looking for an appliance with the ressources to hande about ~600 CP users in average. This said, I do not know a realisitc numer of IP connections. Usage is for a large hotel. We have currently a 600Mbit synchronous ISP connection. At the moment this is handeld by a pfsense VM with 8GB RAM and Xeon CPU which is about 5 years old. I think the current system is much more then needed. I was thinking about a 6100 netgate appliance instead. There is no need for any VPN (only for remote adminstration of the network, so max 1-3 connection, so this should be no point) ... Are my thoughts realistic? Thanks for answers in advance!

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      heper @diwoda
      last edited by Sep 24, 2022, 8:38 PM

      @diwoda
      If the device handles the bandwidth without portal then it'll probably do fine with it.

      AFAIK CP doesn't add a huge overhead.

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        diwoda @heper
        last edited by Sep 25, 2022, 9:32 AM

        @heper thx

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          Gertjan @diwoda
          last edited by Gertjan Sep 25, 2022, 10:28 AM Sep 25, 2022, 10:26 AM

          @diwoda said in Sizing for Captive Portal:

          for a large hotel

          I'm using it for a small hotel (32 rooms).
          Look here https://forum.netgate.com/topic/174489/22-05-cp-clients-have-connectivity-issues-after-x-amount-of-time for a large school.
          A couple of 100 users is 'nothing', if you have the bandwidth to share to make them happy.

          Remember : a captive portal network uses the same resources on a pfSense firewall as a normal LAN networks with an identical number of users.
          The portal part is only used during authentication : showing a web 'login' page - and handling the POST of that webpage, and if succeeded, adding the users IP and MAC in a firewall table.

          Note that the link shown above talks about user bandwidth limiting, that failed. But the issue has been found and can be solved easily.

          edit : lol, the user who found the issue was @heper

          No "help me" PM's please. Use the forum, the community will thank you.
          Edit : and where are the logs ??

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            diwoda @Gertjan
            last edited by diwoda Sep 25, 2022, 5:24 PM Sep 25, 2022, 5:21 PM

            @gertjan hi, thank you aswell...as far as i've overflown the post, the problem only happens in combination with radius athentication. this is not what i do in my scenario. i do no auth at all, but just a simple "click through" CP... however. I'm well aware of the fact that the CP by itselfs does not create heavy load. overall i lack experience with how much ressources houndrets simoultanous connects need (without any additional services like proxy or whatever which would add more load). what i see is, that my current system seems to have no problems at all with ~600 users with peaks of 300-500Mbits throughput. but as i said, right now I have a xeon system. i do not want to risk that, after switching to a new appliance with "only" a atom (but much newer) cpu, i'm going to have problems related to missing power ;-)

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              diwoda @Gertjan
              last edited by diwoda Sep 25, 2022, 8:05 PM Sep 25, 2022, 8:05 PM

              an additional question to this post: does anybody know what the definition of "small", "medium" and "large" business is? in all recommendations from netgate they define it in this scale but I was not able to find a hint where they explaine what they think that small, medium and large is?

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