NUT server and UPS general question

netboy · Nov 9, 2022, 4:19 AM

@dennypage Thank you.... shall read more and figure it out

netboy · Nov 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

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netboy · Nov 9, 2022, 4:21 AM

@dennypage said in NUT server and UPS general question:

Server 1 would be the NUT Primary (NUT's new term--previously called master), and would perform the actual control of the UPS. Server 2 & 3 would be Secondaries (previously called slaves), and take their instruction from the Primary. When the Primary says "time to shut down" the Secondaries shut down and disconnect from the Primary, after which the Primary shuts down which kills UPS power.
Note that you can still "monitor" the the Server 1 UPS using NUT on another host (Pi). You would configure it as a Secondary, but use a power value of 0 to indicated that you are not actually connected to the UPS on Server 1. You can use this approach to monitor all the other UPSs from the Pi as well.

Very useful info....thanks

netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 5:44 PM

@netboy dennypage I got everything working....

Now based on my success I would like to monitor the UPS attached to the Netgate router.

I earlier installed apc package and it worked fine. I uninstalled the same and installed NUT.

SSH into netgate and it reported the UPS.
[22.05-RELEASE][admin@router2100.xxx.local]/root: usbconfig
ugen0.1: <Marvell XHCI root HUB> at usbus0, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=SUPER (5.0Gbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)
ugen1.1: <Marvell EHCI root HUB> at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=HIGH (480Mbps) pwr=SAVE (0mA)
ugen1.2: <American Power Conversion Back-UPS ES 750G FW:841.I4 .D USB FW:I4> at usbus1, cfg=0 md=HOST spd=LOW (1.5Mbps) pwr=ON (2mA)

My config on the NUT in netgate is as follows:

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However I am not having any success!!

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Any tips for troubleshooting?

After some time in SSH I get this message:

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(no tty) at 12:41 EST...

UPS netgateUPS is unavailable

dennypage · Nov 14, 2022, 6:13 PM

@netboy said in NUT server and UPS general question:

Any tips for troubleshooting?

Yes:

Remove everything from the Advanced settings section and leave it empty. [FYI: The lines you have are in the wrong section; The USB driver doesn't take a port. Some UPSs don't like to be polled too frequently.] Later, you can add lines to the "Additional configuration lines for upsd.users" section to allow remote access, but even then leave all the other sections empty.
If you haven't rebooted since you installed NUT, you need to do so. Alternatively, you can do an unplug and replug (see elsewhere in this thread), but the easiest thing to do is to reboot.

netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 7:03 PM

@dennypage Thanks
Followed your advice and it works now ....
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I added users to the upsd.users and "pointed" the hosts.conf and upsmon.conf on the raspberry pi.
The raspberry pi shows the drop down but when I select the one nothing shows up! Other drop down works like a charm.
Any other config I must change in netgate?

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The selection of "netgate UPS" does nothing and shows connection failure

dennypage · Nov 14, 2022, 7:22 PM

@netboy said in NUT server and UPS general question:

The selection of "netgate UPS" does nothing and shows connection failure

I note that in one location you have "netgateUPS" and in another you have "netgate UPS". FWIW, I recommend that you stay away from spaces in names.

netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 7:41 PM

@dennypage Hey dennypage the drop down shows the description as listed in Raspberry Pi hosts.conf

MONITOR netgateUPS@192.168.0.1 "Netgate UPS"

IMHO, I do not think this is the issue.

FYI, i have added the following user in netgate config:
[monslave]
password = {somepassword}
upsmon slave

Added the following in upsmon.conf in raspberry pi;

MONITOR netgateUPS@192.168.0.1 0 monslave {pswd for monslave} slave

dennypage · Nov 14, 2022, 7:43 PM

@netboy Please post your upsd.users and upsmon.conf from both systems.

netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 8:11 PM

@dennypage
Sure here we go...

Masked password as xxxx, yyyy and zzzz - BTW there are no spaces in my password:

netgate - upsd.users

[admin]
password = xxxxx
actions = set
actions = fsd
instcmds = ALL

[monmaster]
password = yyyyy
upsmon master

[monslave]
password = zzzzz
upsmon slave

pi- upsd.users

[admin]
password = nnnnnn
actions = set
actions = fsd
instcmds = ALL

[monmaster]
password = uuuuuuu
upsmon master

[monslave]
password = xxxxx
upsmon slave

netgate - upsmon.conf
blanks no entries

pi - upsmon.conf
MONITOR netgateUPS@192.168.0.1 0 monslave zzzzz slave

Am I missing MONITOR entries in upsmon.conf in netgate?

dennypage · Nov 14, 2022, 8:11 PM

@netboy said in NUT server and UPS general question:

netgate - upsmon.conf
blanks no entries

Based upon your prior screenshots, upsmon.conf on the pfSense system cannot be empty.

Also, please post ups.conf from both systems.

netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 8:16 PM

@dennypage
I added the following to

netgate - upsmon.conf
MONITOR netgateUPS@localhost 1 monmaster yyyyy master

negate - ups.conf
blanks no entries

pi- ups.conf
[powerStrip]
driver = usbhid-ups
port = auto
vendorid = "051d"
productid = "0002"
desc = "APC BE600M1 600VA UPS"

dennypage · Nov 14, 2022, 9:01 PM

@netboy said in NUT server and UPS general question:

I added the following to
netgate - upsmon.conf
MONITOR netgateUPS@localhost 1 monmaster yyyyy master
negate - ups.conf
blanks no entries

Something is wrong. ups.conf cannot be empty, and you should not need to edit upsmon.conf.

Let's restart from the ground up and make sure we have a known, stable base.

Go to Services -> UPS -> Settings.

Set "UPS Type" to "Local USB"
Set "UPS Name" to "ups"
Uncheck the "Enable notifications" box
Set "Driver" to "usbhid".
Clear any content in "Extra Arguments to driver"
Clear any content in all sections of "Advanced sections"

After doing this, press save.

Then, log in via terminal and execute the following:

cat /usr/local/etc/nut/ups.conf
cat /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.conf
cat /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.users
cat /usr/local/etc/nut/upsmon.conf

And post the complete output of each.

netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 9:15 PM

@dennypage
masked passwords

[22.05-RELEASE][admin@router2100.tttt.local]/root: cat /usr/local/etc/nut/ups.conf
[ups]
driver=usbhid-ups
port=auto
[22.05-RELEASE][admin@router2100.tttt.local]/root: cat /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.conf
LISTEN 127.0.0.1
LISTEN ::1
[22.05-RELEASE][admin@router2100.tttt.local]/root: cat /usr/local/etc/nut/upsd.users
[admin]
password=xxxxx
actions=set
instcmds=all
[local-monitor]
password=xxxxx
upsmon master
[22.05-RELEASE][admin@router2100.tttt.local]/root: cat /usr/local/etc/nut/upsmon.conf
MONITOR ups 1 local-monitor xxxxx master
SHUTDOWNCMD "/sbin/shutdown -p +0"
POWERDOWNFLAG /etc/killpower
[22.05-RELEASE][admin@router2100.tttt.local]/root:

dennypage · Nov 14, 2022, 9:49 PM

@netboy Okay, that looks much better.

Now add this

[monuser]
password = secret
upsmon slave

to "Additional configuration lines for upsd.users" in the Advanced settings section.

Now go to this post and follow the instructions to allow access to the NUT port from the LAN interface. I recommend that you choose option 1.

Following that, you can confirm operation by going to the pi and executing the following command:

upsc ups@192.168.0.1
[Based on prior posts, I am assuming that 192.168.0.1 is the LAN IP address of your pfSense firewall]

When you run the upsc command, you should see all the variables of your UPS displayed.

Lastly, for the pi end, put this in upsmon.conf:

MONITOR ups@192.168.0.1 0 monuser secret slave

netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 10:00 PM

@dennypage I guess the MONITOR must be like below (see bold) - correct - Probably you have a typo?

MONITOR ups@192.168.0.1 0 monuser secret slave

dennypage · Nov 14, 2022, 10:04 PM

@netboy said in NUT server and UPS general question:

I guess the MONITOR must be like below (see bold) - correct - Probably you have a typo?
MONITOR ups@192.168.0.1 0 monuser secret slave

You are correct. I copied and pasted from another example. Sorry about that.

netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 10:10 PM

@netboy SUCCESS!!!
I had to make an entry in hosts.conf for pi

MONITOR ups@192.168.0.1 "Netgate UPS"

Worked. I sincerely thank you very much for all your help.

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netboy · Nov 14, 2022, 10:15 PM

@netboy Probably last question....

I want to shutdown everything attached to ups in netgate only when "battery low" in ups - How do I configure this functionality

dennypage · Nov 15, 2022, 12:16 AM

@netboy said in NUT server and UPS general question:

I want to shutdown everything attached to ups in netgate only when "battery low" in ups - How do I configure this functionality

Well, you are in luck... that is the default behavior of NUT.

Anything else connected to the UPS that is capable of running NUT would monitor the master on pfSense just like the setup you did for the pi, with the exception being that they would use power value 1 rather than power value 0. Like so:

MONITOR ups@192.168.0.1 1 monuser secret slave

All the hosts will shut down when the UPS declares a low battery situation. You can read more here.