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combine fios g1100 with separate netgate 2100

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    leakin
    last edited by Jun 28, 2023, 10:50 PM

    I'm new to pfsense and routers; I live in the apartment above our business with an existing Fios g1100 network. There's only 1 public ip provided.
    I'd like to use the Fios connection to create a separate network using my netgate 2100 appliance for a home network.
    I want to disturb the fios setup as little as possible so as not to impact the business. Seems possible from internet searching, but I'm not having success.

    Any help much appreciated...

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      SteveITS Galactic Empire @leakin
      last edited by Jun 29, 2023, 12:06 AM

      @leakin Do you need inbound connections?

      The correct way would be to have a router handle the public IP (is this yours or the ISP?), and NAT to its LAN side. Then have a router for the business and a third for home. Then they would be separated but be able to connect out to the Internet.

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        leakin @SteveITS
        last edited by Jun 29, 2023, 1:40 AM

        @SteveITS
        Thanks for the reply, but I'm too new to this to digest what you mean...

        I don't think I need inbound connections if you mean access the home network FROM the internet, just trying to browse from inside.. baby steps
        the public ip is from Verizon, the g1100 is already routing on the business side, and is working (192.168.1.1).
        I'm trying to use the 2100 to create a home network (172.16.1.1) without interfering with the work side...
        I'll try learning about NAT, but I'm pretty much a network dummy now.

        thanks again

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          SteveITS Galactic Empire @leakin
          last edited by SteveITS Jun 29, 2023, 1:57 AM Jun 29, 2023, 1:54 AM

          @leakin You can use the 2100 for your home, and isolate your home from the work network. However that doesn't really isolate your work network from home. A PC in the home network can connect to a PC in the work network, because the 2100 router will route a request from 172.16.1.1 to 192.168.1.1 because it knows how to get to 192.168.1.1.

          I mentioned 3 routers but you can actually do this with only the 2100. (brain fade, sorry) Use this to isolate one of the ports so you have two internal interfaces, LAN-WORK and LAN-HOME:
          https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/solutions/netgate-2100/configuring-the-switch-ports.html
          The 2100 WAN connects to your Internet.

          edit:
          2100 WAN: public IP
          2100 LAN-WORK: 192.168.1.1
          2100 LAN-HOME: 172.16.1.1

          Firewall rules on LAN-HOME:
          block LAN-HOME Net to LAN-WORK Net
          allow LAN-HOME to any

          (repeat for LAN-WORK)

          Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
          When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
          Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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            leakin
            last edited by Jun 29, 2023, 2:12 AM

            thanks for this; you've given me something to chew on...

            before I start hacking, just to clarify, home accessing work is ok, just rather not the opposite.
            and I've got a g100 lan port feeding the 2100 wan port; the 2100 wan interface is defined as static using the public ip address from work. does that sound right?

            many thanks!

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              SteveITS Galactic Empire @leakin
              last edited by Jun 29, 2023, 2:53 AM

              @leakin OK, I was imagining an infected home PC getting to the work network. If it's not a concern then you just need to use the 2100 in your home.

              You can't use the public IP from work on the 2100 if it's already in use on the g1100. Just set the 2100 WAN to DHCP (the default) and make sure the 2100's LAN network is a different IP address range than work, which it sounds like it is already from your examples. So it should all just work if you plug it in.

              Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
              When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
              Upvote 👍 helpful posts!

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                leakin @SteveITS
                last edited by Jun 29, 2023, 4:12 AM

                @SteveITS
                well I can't thank you enough, I've been making no progress for days, and now I've got a basic configuration running.
                baby took his first step!

                big round of applause...

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                  SteveITS Galactic Empire @leakin
                  last edited by Jun 29, 2023, 5:07 PM

                  @leakin 😊

                  Pre-2.7.2/23.09: Only install packages for your version, or risk breaking it. Select your branch in System/Update/Update Settings.
                  When upgrading, allow 10-15 minutes to restart, or more depending on packages and device speed.
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